Wednesday, December 28, 2011

[sehat] Digest Number 16799

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Serving Suggestion: [sehat] Tanya hasil Screening ADB From: purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id
1b.
Re: Serving Suggestion: [sehat] Tanya hasil Screening ADB From: Bong Mi Yun
1c.
Re: Serving Suggestion: [sehat] Tanya hasil Screening ADB From: Mutiara Santoso
2a.
Re: jenis kelamin From: purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id
3a.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: hilda iriany
3b.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id
3c.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: Sativa Huang
3d.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: Mutiara Santoso
3e.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: F.B.Monika
3f.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: F.B.Monika
3g.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: niea_152@yahoo.com
3h.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: Sativa Huang
3i.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: Qiqie Mama Nayla
3j.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: Inta
3k.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: niea_152@yahoo.com
3l.
Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi From: /ghz
4a.
Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah From: cheril mycat
4b.
Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah From: niea_152@yahoo.com
4c.
Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah From: cheril mycat
4d.
Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah From: maya.rostika@yahoo.com
4e.
Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah From: cheril mycat
4f.
Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah From: piep71@ymail.com
5a.
Re: (Tanya) kontrasepsi From: Qiqie Mama Nayla
5b.
Re: (Tanya) kontrasepsi From: Triya Halimah
6.
WARNING:  [news] BMJ: US panel rules that warnings on two birth cont From: /ghz

Messages

1a.

Re: Serving Suggestion: [sehat] Tanya hasil Screening ADB

Posted by: "purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id" purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:38 pm (PST)



Dear all

tertarik saja sama thread ini
Mau nimbrung bole yaa

Semua makanan fortuified itu - imported
Muahaaalll

Saya beli weetbix se umur2 baru 2x
Hehehe
Jadi yta local cntext home made aja kali ya

Wati
Patient Safety, first

1b.

Re: Serving Suggestion: [sehat] Tanya hasil Screening ADB

Posted by: "Bong Mi Yun" bongmiyun@gmail.com   bongmiyun

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:41 pm (PST)



Difreezer dulu, krn klo ngga daging jadi mateng saat diblender...putaran
mesin blender kan panas, apalagi sekelas magimix. Jadi klo kepanasan,
daging jadi mateng susah garing. Bikin baso ikan juga mirip.. ntar klo
rajin aku share resepnya (semua baso2, kerupuk, mpek2, aku selalu home
made agak parno dgn yg beredar dipasaran).

Regards,
Mi Yun

1c.

Re: Serving Suggestion: [sehat] Tanya hasil Screening ADB

Posted by: "Mutiara Santoso" mutiara.santoso@yahoo.co.id   mutiara.santoso

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:07 pm (PST)



Nambahin Mbak Mi Yun

Tips memilih kluwek :
Untuk tau Kluwek yang bagus untuk rawon. Pilih yang berat saat dipegang.

Salam Penjual Rawon
Mutiara
(Bundane Raf,Rif,Deo n Miracle) @MiracleIvy
2a.

Re: jenis kelamin

Posted by: "purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id" purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:38 pm (PST)



Bukan kelaminnya yg berubah
Usg kan operator dependent
Usg juga sangat dipengaruhi resolusi si alat
Jadi ya gitu deh hehehe
Wati
Patient Safety, first

3a.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "hilda iriany" hilda.iriany@gmail.com   h_iriany

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:39 pm (PST)



Asiiiiikkk.
Sabar menanti produk lokal ini di pasaran

*yuk mams :)

3b.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id" purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:43 pm (PST)



Kandungan aktifnya apa ya?
Sol
Wati
Patient Safety, first

3c.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "Sativa Huang" sativahuang@gmail.com   sativahuang

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:54 pm (PST)



Dear all,
Thanks Bu Monik,
Sudah saya simpan link dan hapus emailnya, biar nggak kebaca ama istri
saya hehehe.
Dari tulisan berikut ini terkesan bahwa pilnya harus dikonsumsi
terus-menerus seperti halnya pil kb untuk wanita.

Male birth control pill to hit the shelves soon
Oral Contraception 121doc.co.uk
By Toby Sandford | Posted in Monday December 19, 2011
http://www.121doc.co.uk/news/future-male-contraception-7039.html

Indonesian researchers, who have been successful in developing
contraceptive pills for men, claim that the newly developed herbal
tablets are as effective as widely used birth control pills for women.

The study authors developed the contraceptive tablet using a shrub
called Gandarusa, which is found on remote Indonesian island of Papua.
Tribesmen of Papua noticed the effect of Gandarusa long back and since
then have been using the leaves of the shrub to avoid pregnancy.

Scientists in Indonesia used this folk method to produce an
over-the-counter pill for male contraception. For making the tablet,
researchers from East Java extracted the shrub's active ingredient,
which is believed to have the ability to weaken enzymes in
spermatozoa, preventing sperm from creating a foetus.

Bambang Prayogo, creator of the Gandarusa pills, warns that the
effects of medication will last only till men keeps taking the pill.
He says the new sperms entering the women will be capable of causing
fertilisation, if man discontinues the pills.

Analysed in labs since 1987, Gandarusa's active compound was granted
patent in 2007. Human trails of the pills have been done on two sample
groups of males, one with 36 men and other with 120. Researchers plan
to conduct a 350-male study for strengthening their invention and
proving that on popping the pills, sperms remain healthy but don't
fertilise woman's egg.

According to the lead researcher, both animal and human trials have
been successful till now and no destructive side effects have been
observed. The study also notes that some men experienced a boosted sex
drive after taking the pill.

With last stages of clinical trial going on, Bambang Prayogo is
hopeful that the drug will hit the market within a year. It may be
noted that the availability of daily oral contraceptive pills for men
will come as an alternative for condom and vasectomy. Moreover,
looking at the fast growing world's population, this new invention can
expand the scope of birth control.

Salam,

3d.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "Mutiara Santoso" mutiara.santoso@yahoo.co.id   mutiara.santoso

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:57 pm (PST)



Dear Mbak Monika,

†ђąηk ўσυ buat sharing nчa. Gantian yg KB, selama ini Ŝαųα terus yg KB, kulit kering nчa ampun2nan.

Warm Regards,
Mutiara
(Bundane Raf,Rif,Deo n Miracle) @MiracleIvy
3e.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "F.B.Monika" f_monika_b@yahoo.com   f_monika_b

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:58 pm (PST)



Dear Bunda,

Detil kandungan aktifnya masih googling hehe jadi infonya terbatas pada kandungan utama dari tanaman Gandarusa tsb..

@Pak Sativa,

Thx additional infonya ..kok g boleh kebaca istri? Hehe joke no need to answer

F.B.Monika

3f.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "F.B.Monika" f_monika_b@yahoo.com   f_monika_b

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:59 pm (PST)



Dear Bunda,

Detil kandungan aktifnya masih googling hehe jadi infonya terbatas pada kandungan utama dari tanaman Gandarusa tsb..

@Pak Sativa,

Thx additional infonya ..kok g boleh kebaca istri? Hehe joke no need to answer

F.B.Monika

3g.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "niea_152@yahoo.com" niea_152@yahoo.com   niea_152

Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:59 pm (PST)



*Bambang Prayogo, creator of the Gandarusa pills, warns that the effects of medication will last only till men keeps taking the pill. He says the new sperms entering the women will be capable of causing fertilisation, if man discontinues the pills.
~▸ hmmmm...klo gitu tetep aman kondom aja dah.

-nia-ibunya Razan Ragha®
@nieafardina
3h.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "Sativa Huang" sativahuang@gmail.com   sativahuang

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:03 pm (PST)



Dear Bu monik,
Kalau kebaca, tar giliran saya yang minum pilnya :)
(Just kidding, selama ini pakai metode kalendar, karena mens-nya teratur).

Dear Bu Nia:
Pengertian saya, pil ini sama aja dengan pil kb untuk wanita, jadi harus
konsumsi setiap hari.

Salam,

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:59 PM, <niea_152@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
> ~▸ hmmmm...klo gitu tetep aman kondom aja dah.
>
>
> -nia-ibunya Razan Ragha®
>

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3i.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "Qiqie Mama Nayla" deswita.nashwa@gmail.com   rizkie3

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:06 pm (PST)



ikut mantengin treadnya ah..
ditunggu hasil googlingannya mba monik..

sy takut pasang IUD, ga suka disuntik, ga telaten minum pil, jadi ga pernah
pake KB.. sekalinya coba kondom udah keburu terbuahi ;p

Qiqie
*mother of 3 N yang SC semua

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3j.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "Inta" dini.maesarinta@gmail.com

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:07 pm (PST)



Makcik,

Pake kondomnya yah setelah discontinue ae. Beres deh huahahahahahahaha.

Maaaaaap oot, kabur ah sblm di jitak orang semilis.

Cheers, Inta
@Intamardwityo
terkirim dari henponkuh

3k.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "niea_152@yahoo.com" niea_152@yahoo.com   niea_152

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:24 pm (PST)



*Pengertian saya, pil ini sama aja dengan pil kb untuk wanita, jadi harus konsumsi setiap hari.
~▸ ‎​ƗƗɐƗƗɐƗƗɐ"̮ iya pak,yg mana ga cocok untuk saya dan suami yg pelupa (malas?)

Makcik inta: tetep biar suami aja yg pake alat kontrasepsi..kagak tergoda ama Kontrasepsi yg lain :p


-nia-ibunya Razan Ragha®
@nieafardina
3l.

Re: Gandarusa, Pil KB Khusus Pria Siap Diproduksi

Posted by: "/ghz" ghozan10032005@gmail.com

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:37 pm (PST)



On 12/28/2011 12:03 PM, F.B.Monika wrote:
> Detil kandungan aktifnya masih googling hehe jadi infonya terbatas pada kandungan utama dari tanaman Gandarusa tsb..
>
==> kandungan aktifnya saya copas dari journal of indonesian medical
association :

Kandungan kimia yang terdapat pada gandarusa antara
lain flavonoid. Isolasi flavonoid gandarusa mengandung flavonol-
3-glikosida. Pada ekstrak methanol diketahui mengandung
8 komponen flavonoid.11 Hasil ekstraksi dihasilkan
fraksi-n-butanol (1,2%) yang termasuk golongan polifenol
dengan kadar flavonoid total 0,9%. Seperti diketahui flavonoid
adalah senyawa fenol yang banyak ditemukan di alam.
Senyawa ini merupakan zat warna merah, ungu, biru dan
sebagian zat warna kuning yang ditemukan dalam tumbuhtumbuhan.
Banyaknya senyawa flavonoid bukan disebabkan
oleh banyaknya variasi struktur, akan tetapi lebih disebabkan
oleh berbagai tingkat hidroksilasi, alkoksilasi atau glikolasi
dari struktur tersebut12.
Standarrisasi gandarusa yang berasal dari daerah
Mojokerto telah dilakukan, dan dihasilkan informasi yang
sama dengan Materia Medika Indonesia (MMI) serta adanya
informasi baru terhadap kadar flavonoid total, alkaloid total,
air, tannin, dan minyak atsiri13. Studi aktivitas gandarusa
menemukan bahwa infus gandarusa diketahui menurunkan
testosteron dan mempengaruhi spermatogenesis tikus13.
Ekstrak diklorometan dan methanol menurunkan motilitas,
viabilitas spermatozoa mencit14. Demikian juga pada manusia
seperti yang dilakukan oleh Reny et al15 dan Sri et al16
menemukan bahwa gandarusa menurunkan daya dispersi
kumulus oovorus manusia in vitro. Selain itu ekstrak methanol
menghambat penetrasi spermatozoa mencit, menurunkan
aktivitas akrosin dan a-glukosidase kelinci, dan LD 50 adalah
180 mg (20 g BB mencit p.o) dan termasuk praktis tidak
toksik.17

monggo kl mau diunduh:
http://indonesia.digitaljournals.org/index.php/idnmed/article/view/533

salamku
ghz--gandamacan.

--
"Knowing is not enough, We must apply. Willing is not enough, We must
do."--Goethe

4a.

Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah

Posted by: "cheril mycat" cheril.mycat@gmail.com   ceril_cute

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:07 pm (PST)



Halo Dr. dan para SPs
langsung aja nih mau tanya soal keputihan...saya kalo keputihan kok membawa
sakit di bagian pinggang sampai perut samping bagian bawah..dan sakitnya
bisa sampai seharian.kira2 kenapa ya? ada yang punya pengalaman seperti
ini?apakah ada pemeriksaan yang harus saya lakukan..

terima kasih sebelumnya...

Sriyani (ibunya Hafiz)

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4b.

Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah

Posted by: "niea_152@yahoo.com" niea_152@yahoo.com   niea_152

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:21 pm (PST)



Mb,
Keputihannya putih bening atau hijau dan berbau?
Konsul aja ke dsog mb, ssambil gitu bekali diri dulu. Baca2s soal keputihan supaya ntar sdi dsog tau mau diskusi apa.

Maap ga bantu banyak


-nia-ibunya Razan Ragha�
@nieafardina
4c.

Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah

Posted by: "cheril mycat" cheril.mycat@gmail.com   ceril_cute

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:27 pm (PST)



mba Nia tks untuk responnya...kl aku sih keputihannya putih bening tapi ya
itu sakit seperti datang bulan...

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4d.

Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah

Posted by: "maya.rostika@yahoo.com" maya.rostika@yahoo.com   maya.rostika

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:41 pm (PST)



Mom Yani..
Kebetulan aku jg gt (sejak pasang kb spiral,dl sih ngga).. Keputihan bening ky jeli n sakiiittttttt ky lg kontraksi mau lahiran.. Seharin ga bs ngapa2in karena mules nya bnr2 ampun2an deh..
Udh browsing n ngubek2 file milis.. N akhirnya ke dokter.. Diliat posisi kb nya ok gada masalah.. Pap smear jg hasil nya ok.. Ya skrg sih nikmatin aja sakitnya.. Alhamdulillah msh bs ngerasain sakit.. Hehehe maaf ga ngebantu malah ikutan curhat..

_maya_

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4e.

Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah

Posted by: "cheril mycat" cheril.mycat@gmail.com   ceril_cute

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:46 pm (PST)



halo mb Maya tks atas responya..iya nih mba aku jg sakit trus badan juga
jadi lemes..tpi aku blm KB sih mba...dan ini aku alamin dari semasa gadis
juga..mungkin harus papsmear ya...

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4f.

Re: Keputihan buat sakit perut bagian bawah

Posted by: "piep71@ymail.com" piep71@ymail.com

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:48 pm (PST)




Mba,
Ini keputihannya setiap hari atau pas waktu2 tertentu. misal: pas masa subur
Soalnya aku kalo pas masa subur jg keputihan bening kaya jelly panjang gt kalo diulur "maaf" kata DSOG namanya "nyeri milhemitzer" (maaf ga tau nulis benernya gmn hehe), itu normal katanya, pertanda lg masa subur bbrp orang bisa mengalaminya smpi sakit nyeri gt
CMIIW

Sarica

5a.

Re: (Tanya) kontrasepsi

Posted by: "Qiqie Mama Nayla" deswita.nashwa@gmail.com   rizkie3

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:12 pm (PST)



>
>
> Aku pake IUD. pas di pasang sich ga berasa apa2. tapi kalau lagi datang
> bulan, widih..... banjir bow... bisa ganti pembalut mpe 6 kali sehari...
> like bleeding :)
>
mba triya, saya ga pasang IUD tapi klo lagi haid bisa ganti pembalut tiap
BAK, bisa lebih dari 6x sehari malah.. just curious klo pasang IUD bisa
berapa kali ganti..

qiqie
*boros pembalut

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5b.

Re: (Tanya) kontrasepsi

Posted by: "Triya Halimah" miumiucoklat@yahoo.com   miumiucoklat

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:22 pm (PST)



coba di diskusikan dulu sm dsog nya mom.
aq pernah tanya, kenapa berbeda quantitas nya antara sblm pasang sm sesudah pasang.
jawabannya sich, karena otot disekitar yang ada iud nya terhalang bergerak secara refleks untuk mengatur keluarnya darah. aku juga bingung.

mungkin mom yg lain punya jawaban knp bs lbh banyak ya?

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6.

WARNING:  [news] BMJ: US panel rules that warnings on two birth cont

Posted by: "/ghz" ghozan10032005@gmail.com

Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:40 pm (PST)



repost:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [news] BMJ: US panel rules that warnings on two birth control
pills be strengthened
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:13:56 +0700
From: /ghz <ghozan10032005@gmail.com>
To: sehat@yahoogroups.com
CC: informasi@pom.go.id

BMJ 2011; 343 doi: 10.1136/bmj.d8104 (Published 13 December 2011)
Cite this as: BMJ 2011;343:d8104

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<http://www.bmj.com/specialties/medicines-regulation>
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* Pharmacology and therapeutics
<http://www.bmj.com/specialties/pharmacology-and-therapeutics>
* Reproductive medicine
<http://www.bmj.com/specialties/reproductive-medicine>
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* Article <http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d8104?tab=full>
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Labels on the popular birth control pills Yasmin and Yaz should be
strengthened to include more information about the possibility that they
could increase the risk of blood clots, an advisory committee to the
Food and Drug Administration said on Thursday 8 December.

The panel, which voted 21 to five in favour of changing the labels,
stopped short of recommending that the labels should warn that the
drugs, whose main active ingredient is drospirenone, are more likely
than other contraceptive pills to cause blood clots. Instead the experts
suggested that the labels say that the evidence about blood clots is
conflicting. The panel also decided by 15-11 that the drug's benefits
outweighed its risks.

The panel reached its decision after reviewing a number of studies of
drospirenone, some of which found an increased risk of thromboembolic
events.

However, the panel was not shown documents that are at the heart of a
report by David Kessler, a former ...

http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d8104?tab=full

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Research: Hormonal contraception and risk of venous
thromboembolism: national follow-up study
<http://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b2890>

Published 13 Dec 2011

Research: Risk of venous thromboembolism in users of oral
contraceptives containing drospirenone or levonorgestrel: nested
case-control study based on UK General Practice Research Database
<http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d2139>

Published 13 Dec 2011

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<http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d2151>

Published 13 Dec 2011

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Milis SEHAT mengucapkan terimakasih kepada:
- Asuransi AIA atas partisipasinya sebagai sponsor PESAT Bali 2011
- PT LG Electronics Indonesia atas partisipasinya sebagai Sponsor Tunggal FAMILY FUN DAY MILIS SEHAT 2011.

Terima kasih & penghargaan sedalam-dalamnya kepada : HBTLaw, PT.Intiland, dan PT. Permata Bank Tbk. yang telah dan konsisten mensponsori program kami, PESAT (Program Edukasi Kesehatan Anak Untuk Orang Tua)."

"Milis SEHAT didukung oleh : CBN Net Internet Access &Website.
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Milis Sehat thanks to:
- AIA Insurance as sponsor for PESAT Bali 2011
- PT LG Electronics Indonesia as exclusive partner of FAMILY FUN DAY MILIS SEHAT 2011.

Our biggest gratitude to: HBTLaw, PT. Intiland, and PT. Permata Bank Tbk. who have consistently sponsored our program, PESAT (Program Edukasi Kesehatan Anak Untuk Orang Tua)."
"SEHAT mailing list is supported by CBN Net for Internet Access &Website.

Kunjungi kami di (Visit us at):
Official Web : http://milissehat.web.id/
FB           : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milissehat/131922690207238
Twitter      : @milissehat <http://twitter.com/milissehat/>
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Donasi (donation):
Rekening Yayasan Orang Tua Peduli
Bank Mandiri
Cabang Kemang Raya Jakarta
Account Number: 126.000.4634514
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