Monday, October 24, 2011

[sehat] Digest Number 16325

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

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Fwd: When Doing Nothing Is the Best Medicine From: Billy N.
2a.
Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri From: nia2R
2b.
Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri From: siti amatullah mutmainah
2c.
Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri From: rully875@gmail.com
2d.
Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri From: Laksmi Purwitosari
2e.
Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri From: Laksmi Purwitosari
2f.
Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri From: rully875@gmail.com
3a.
kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: indah
3b.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: siti amatullah mutmainah
3c.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: indah
3d.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: siti amatullah mutmainah
3e.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: Dina Kurniasari
3f.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: Dwiana
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Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: aina
3h.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: indah
3i.
Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah From: nia2R
4a.
Punya anak laki? From: rulinovich94@yahoo.com
4b.
Re: Punya anak laki? From: siti amatullah mutmainah
4c.
Re: Punya anak laki? From: wening2007@yahoo.co.id
4d.
Re: Punya anak laki? From: neta fitria
4e.
Re: Punya anak laki? From: felis@xl.blackberry.com
4f.
Re: Punya anak laki? From: Hilda
5a.
Re: Artikel Dukungan untuk Imunisasi di Blog Gene Netto From: yuti dewita arimbi
6a.
Re: berat badan anak From: Bong Mi Yun
7a.
Re: Ditolak imunisasi campak, karena ada riwayat kejang From: angel.encis@gmail.com

Messages

1.

Fwd: When Doing Nothing Is the Best Medicine

Posted by: "Billy N." billy@hukum-kesehatan.web.id   yahrapha

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:36 am (PDT)



http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/when-doing-nothing-is-the-best-medicine/?ref=health
When Doing Nothing Is the Best Medicine
Danielle Ofri, M.D.

"Don't just do something; stand there!"
It's one of those phrases that attending physicians will spout off to
their medical students while on rounds, trying to sound both sagacious
and clever at the same time. It sometimes grates, but it does make a
valid point, because so much of medicine is about "doing something."
Sore throat? Prescribe an antibiotic.
New headache? Get a CT scan.
P.S.A. at the upper limit of normal? Get a biopsy.
Blood pressure still high? Add on another medication.
Doctors tend to want to "do something" whenever they note something
amiss. And patients, by and large, want something done when they have
a symptom. Few people like being told just to watch and wait.
Of course, every "thing" a doctor does also has side effects — rampant
bacterial resistance from antibiotic overuse; major increases in
radiation exposure from unnecessary CT scans; incontinence or
impotence from prostate cancer treatments that may do nothing to
prolong life; toxic drug interactions from multiple medications,
particularly in the elderly.
The admonishment "Don't just do something; stand there!" reminds us
that we should stop and think before we act, that there are many
instances in which doing nothing is greatly preferable to doing
something.
In fact, there are some doctors for whom "doing nothing" is the
dominant way of thinking, who are not reflex "do-ers." They tend to
lean toward the status quo: If the patient is doing fine right now,
why rock the boat?
There's a term for this in the medical literature — clinical inertia —
a term with a distinctly negative connotation. It describes the doctor
who, for instance, sees a patient with cholesterol levels that are not
optimum but who does not prescribe a statin. Or the doctor who notices
that a diabetic patient's blood sugar levels are still not normal but
refrains from increasing the patient's medication.
Of course, this is not black and white: There is a continuum of
practice styles, just as there is a continuum of personalities in
general. At one end are doctors who jump on the merest hint of a
borderline lab value; at the other are doctors who avoid making
changes unless absolutely necessary.
I like to think of myself as perfectly balanced in the precise middle
of this spectrum, but if I take a hard look in the mirror I can see
that I tend toward the clinical inertia side, always hesitating before
I write a prescription or order a test. I tell myself that this arises
from the august wisdom of my clinical experience, from having
witnessed my fair share of side effects and adverse outcomes due to
medical meddling. But I have to be honest and recognize that it
reflects my personal tendency to be slow in making major decisions of
any sort, to need a strong sense of how things are likely to play out
before I act.
Every time I prescribe a medication — or order an invasive test, or
refer a patient to a surgeon — it always feels like I'm placing a
stone on a balance scale. Intellectually, my goal is to place the
stone on the side of the scale that benefits my patient. But in my
heart, I fear that it could end up on the other side, the side that
harms, and the weight and permanence of the stone give me pause.
Many make the argument that deciding not to act is as momentous as
deciding to act. Except that it never feels that way. My hesitation
induces guilt; it makes me ask myself if I am harming my patients by
not acting as fast or aggressively as some of my colleagues would.
An essay I came across in The Journal of the American Medical
Association called "Clinical Inertia as a Clinical Safeguard" offered
some food for thought. The authors postulated that doctors who tend
toward inertia might actually benefit their patients by protecting
them from overzealous medical intervention.
They focused on three common medical conditions — diabetes, elevated
cholesterol and hypertension — for which there are established
clinical guidelines for doctors to follow and "quality measures" that
evaluate medical care. For all three illnesses, "lower is better" is
the dominant mantra.
But while "lower is better" is probably true for large populations,
that is not always the case for individual patients. In fact, there
are some clinical trials in which aggressively lowered blood sugar or
blood pressure have been associated with higher rates of dying.
The authors weren't saying that these medical conditions shouldn't be
actively treated, but they did caution that standard clinical
guidelines tend to favor overaggressive treatment in pursuit of "good
numbers." In the stampede toward good numbers, individual patients can
be harmed by the side effects of these treatments. Clinical inertia
might actually act as a safeguard for such patients.
No one, of course, wants doctors who fail to act when action is
necessary. And medical emergencies are a different story altogether.
But most chronic illnesses, luckily, are not emergencies, so there is
room for deliberation before action. And while insurance companies
won't reimburse for deliberation, and report cards pointedly penalize,
it's interesting to consider that there are many patients who may have
been saved by inertia.

2a.

Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri

Posted by: "nia2R" niea_152@yahoo.com   niea_152

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:36 am (PDT)



Bells palsy? SOL

-nia-ibunya Razan Ragha
@nieafardina

2b.

Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:48 am (PDT)



Hehehe mba nia.. Kepkran gt juga.. Cm ga mudeng, anak2 jg bisa kali yah..

Mohon pencerahannya dr.laksmi :)

Cheers,
Ami
*siap menyimak


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Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri

Posted by: "rully875@gmail.com" rully875@gmail.com   rully027

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:06 am (PDT)



Waduh mbak nia, mudah2an jangan sampe ke arah sana *bdoa khusyu*. Saya udah pernah baca sih karena ada anak kawan saya masih balita juga kena bells palsy. Barangkali dr laksmi bisa bantu kasih penjelasan atau keywordnya?

Rully
*nunggu dr laksmi*
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Bells palsy? SOL


-nia-ibunya Razan Ragha
@nieafardina



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Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri

Posted by: "Laksmi Purwitosari" laksmipurwitosari@yahoo.com   laksmipurwitosari

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:09 am (PDT)



Anak-anak juga bisa kena bell's palsy, kalo bell's palsy, wajah perot, mulut mencong, kelopak mata tidak bisa menutup dan kondisi ini terjadi terus menerus, tidak hilang timbul.
Ketika diam, sudut mulut tidak simetris, cekungan nasolabial (hidung bibir) menghilang sesisi, gejala makin tampak ketika meringis. Lipatan dahi berkurang sampai menghilang, kelopak mata tidak bisa menutup rapat.

Jika hilang timbul mungkin suatu gerakan involuntar seperti Tic Facialis atau blepharospasme. Tolong dideskripsikan lagi gejalanya, persepsi saya perotnya hanya kadang kadang? betulkah begitu?

Laksmi Purwitosari

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2e.

Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri

Posted by: "Laksmi Purwitosari" laksmipurwitosari@yahoo.com   laksmipurwitosari

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:21 am (PDT)



Kebetulan kemarin ada yang nanya masalah gerakan involuntar,
Coba dibaca apakah memang suatu gerakan involuntar

Gerakan diluar kehendak bisa disearching dengan involuntary movement atau movement disorder,

Kemungkinannya antara lain berupa Tic, apakah tadi memang seperti ini

http://www.brainandnerves.com/uk/Functional-disorders/Tics/
Tics can be simple or complex. The simple motoric tics involve very small muscle groups and are simple movements such as blinking, flinching, grimace, wrinkle of the nose, lip protrusion, jerking shoulders and the head throwing the arms around involuntarily. There are also simple vocal tics, which consists of snorting, cough, whistle, hum, grunt, scream, yell or gasp.

The complex motoric tics are combined movements, which mean that more muscle groups must work together. This might be jumping, clapping, touching objects or others, tongue or lip biting, scratching, sticking out the tongue or compulsive awkward body positions. Complex vocal tics are more or less meaningful words, phrases or sentences that interrupt the flow of speech. This can lead to the impression of stutter.

In rare cases, the involuntary movements replicate sexual situations or might be provocative gestures. Similarly, the person may unwillingly speak profanely or use strong sexual expression. There might also be involuntary imitation of someone else's movements or speech. Tics vary much in terms of severity, incidence, duration and nature. There can be both good and bad periods.

Particularly in children there are cases where the child may withhold tics for several hours only then to get repeated violent tic attacks. Some experience a tingling sensation in the area where the tics occur before the onset of an attack. Tics often improve during or after hard physical activity and often disappear completely during sleep. They can be exacerbated when the child is completely relaxed or tired.

Laksmi Purwitosari

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Re: Mulut mencong ke kiri

Posted by: "rully875@gmail.com" rully875@gmail.com   rully027

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:53 am (PDT)



Kalo baca penjelasan dr laksmi sih saya lihat sih ga ke arah gejala bells palsy yah dok *mudah2an jangan*. deskripsinya ya dia hanya menarik mulut ke kiri seperti kalo ada yg nyelip di gigi dan pengen kita keluarkan *duh bingungin yah penjelasannya*.

Dan frekuensinya meski berulang tapi ga terus2an tiap saat. Saya sudah tanya apa dia ada sakit di gigi atau ga enak di mulut, jawabannya sih nggak ada.

Setelah ini saya coba browing dg keyword yg dr laksmi beri. Cuma barangkali bisa diberi informasi kondisi seperti apa yg musti dicurigai dok.

Thanks
Rully
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Anak-anak juga bisa kena bell's palsy, kalo bell's palsy, wajah perot, mulut mencong, kelopak mata tidak bisa menutup dan kondisi ini terjadi terus menerus, tidak hilang timbul.
Ketika diam, sudut mulut tidak simetris, cekungan nasolabial (hidung bibir) menghilang sesisi, gejala makin tampak ketika meringis. Lipatan dahi berkurang sampai menghilang, kelopak mata tidak bisa menutup rapat.

Jika hilang timbul mungkin suatu gerakan involuntar seperti Tic Facialis atau blepharospasme. Tolong dideskripsikan lagi gejalanya, persepsi saya perotnya hanya kadang kadang? betulkah begitu?

Laksmi Purwitosari



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3a.

kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "indah" dije_babbo@yahoo.co.id   dije_babbo

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:44 am (PDT)



Dear Docs n SPs
Anak saya Cinta (18d) sejak kamis lalu mengalami beruntusan yang
bernanah pada ubun2nya.. awalnya saya mengira itu Kerak Topi atau
craddle cap, jd HTnya d oleskan pakai Babyoil dan dibersihkan untuk
mengeluarkan keraknya (seperti nanah kering).Tp sejak kmrn dan hari ini
kok menyebar sampai ke seluruh kepala bahkan sampai di telinga.1. Apa yg
harus saya lakukan, malam ini sy mulai panik karena melihat bantalny
penuh bekas keringat campur nanah? 2. Sejak hari kamis itu juga Cinta
saya GundulApakah ada pengaruhnya?
Terima Kasih sebelumnya...
_Indah Ami Aiko-Cinta_

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Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:51 am (PDT)



Dear mba indah ..
Ga demam kan?
Impetigo mgkn ya ..
Bisa lihat di milissehat soal impetigo..

Cmiiw,
Ami



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Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "indah" dije_babbo@yahoo.co.id   dije_babbo

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:03 am (PDT)



Alhamdulillah nggak demam mba..
Oke aku coba liat.. Makasih ya mba..
Oh iya, anak saya ASI, apa musti peratiin makanan juga ya?

SOL

3d.

Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:18 am (PDT)



Hmm mksd mba alergi mknan?
Mmgnya ada makanan baru yg mba konsumsi?

Utk alergi, ga komentar byk ya mba.. Karena kan keseharian tentu mba lebih tau..

GWS,
Ami


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Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "Dina Kurniasari" danishapramesvari@gmail.com   adin_zahra

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:25 am (PDT)



Mba indah, saya malah kepikiran ama baby oil-nya..sol

Dina Kurniasari_emake Danisha & Lintang
@Dinadanishali

3f.

Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "Dwiana" dwiana7179@yahoo.com

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:47 am (PDT)



Mbak indah

Baby oil mungkin mbak. Anak sy sth pake baby oil lgs bruntus kecil2 merah sprt isi air.

Ana
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Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "aina" aina.anwar@yahoo.com   aina.anwar

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:55 am (PDT)



Mgkn krn baby oil , sol

merci beaucoup
wassalamu'alaikum wr wb,

aina f.

3h.

Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "indah" dije_babbo@yahoo.co.id   dije_babbo

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:55 am (PDT)



Terima kasih buat Mba Ami dan Mba Dina,
Oh bgtu ya, mgkn alergi sm Babyoilnya ya....
Ada tips HT untuk nanahnya mba?
Kasihan sy liat babyku kepalany bernanah sampai
Bantalnya berwarna kuning dan bau. Terima kasih..
Maaf byk bertanya.. :)
Indah

3i.

Re: kepala bayi beruntusan bernanah

Posted by: "nia2R" niea_152@yahoo.com   niea_152

Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:00 am (PDT)



Mb,
Nambahain mb ami, coba brosing dermatitis seboroik..(Maap klo tulisan salah). Sambil gitu kompres ama nacl aja.

salam

-nia-ibunya Razan Ragha
@nieafardina

4a.

Punya anak laki?

Posted by: "rulinovich94@yahoo.com" rulinovich94@yahoo.com   rulinovich94

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:49 am (PDT)



Dear all...,
Maaf bgt yah ganggu istirahatnya,mau nyampah nih alias curhat :D,boleh yaa...
Jadi begini ceritanya,td pagi kan aku kontrol kehamilan,alhamdulillah sdh 22minggu,dan semua sehat (salim k dokter ridwan :D),dan tibalah saat melihat jenis kelamin,dan ternyata Insya Allah,anak kedua ini laki2,suamiku seneng bgt krn dia mmg kepengen anak laki2,tp kok aku jd sedikiiiiiitt gundah,seneng bgt sih iya,krn sdh punya sepasang brarti,tp sama sekali blank ttg anak cowok,mungkin krn lingkunganku didominasi cewek,sodara kandung cewek semua,sepupu jg kbykan cewek huhuhuhu...
Gimana ya,tips dan triknya menghadapi anak laki2ku nanti?apa pola asuh hrs berbeda dgn anak perempuan?agak lebay mungkin kalo bertanya ttg itu,tp terus terang aku bener2 kepikiran,gmn kalo begini,gmn kalo begitu?ihiks...calon ibu kok begini bener yah T_T...
Mohon pencerahannya yaaa...
Makasiiiiihh banyaaaakkk


Regards
-ibunya andra-
*galau*
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4b.

Re: Punya anak laki?

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:05 am (PDT)



Hi ibunya andra ..
Toss dulu ah! Sm dunk.. Drmhku perempuan smua, wkt tau jabang bayi ku laki2 .. Yg excited bgt malah sy loh! Pnasaran kyk apa sih..
Smpt yg parno dikit deh, klo pny nak laki tuh buandel etc..
Lha ternyata enggak ah, cs-an bgt malahan.. Seru kdg kyk adik sendiri (ngaco nih), kdg kyk best friend-an ..
Ngalir aja deh gitu, ga pusing2 bgt..
Soal ngurus anak laki dan perempuan beda? sebetulnya bukan diliat dari gendernya (ini pndpt sy loh ya) .. Tapi ciri khas anak msg2 yg bikin beda..
Jadi strategi nya aja yg bikin beda, indikator pencapaiannya sih diharapkan sm .. (Hahahahaha opo iki??)

Maaf ya kalau bikin bingung ..

Mdh2an kehamilan dan persalinannya lancar yah

Cheers,
Ami
*siap2 sleepo ..


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Re: Punya anak laki?

Posted by: "wening2007@yahoo.co.id" wening2007@yahoo.co.id   wening2007

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:32 am (PDT)



Ibunya Andra...(Namanya sapa yak?)
Anak pertama sy jg perempuan dah 6th n skrg adeknya laki2 baru 5bln..
Kl buat sy mengasuh n mendidik anak itu mmg penuh trial n error...ndak perlu bingung mba...banyak tempat yg bisa dimintai pertolongan (ada mbah gugel kan? ;) )...lagi pula feeling emak2 pasti jalan...nothing worries :)

Maap kl ndak bantu
Salam,
Iin aka Wening
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4d.

Re: Punya anak laki?

Posted by: "neta fitria" cupidear@yahoo.com   cupidear

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:50 am (PDT)




Sebelumnya, selamaaat..!

Wah, toss juga doong. Dirumah, saya punya 4 adek perempuan semua, yang laki2 ya cuma alm. Papa.
Sekarang, anak saya 3 laki-laki semua. Keder, bingung, waktu tau mau punya anak laki? Ya jelaaas, selalu ada "grogi" deh kayanya untuk segala sesuatu yg berbau "first time" :D.

So far, saya enjoy banget ngurusin 3 anak laki2 dirumah. Mereka semua care kok sama saya, malahan si sulung, luar biasa ngebantu saya. Mulai bisa nyapu, vakum rumah & beresin kamarnya sendiri. Buat curhat? Ah sama serunya kok kaya curhat ke anak cewe, mereka juga bisa cerewet, hehe..

Rileks ya mbak, nanti juga kalo udah lahir anaknya, ngalir sendiri. You will know what to do :).

Once again, congratulations on your pregnancy, semoga sehat terus sampai melahirkan nanti.
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4e.

Re: Punya anak laki?

Posted by: "felis@xl.blackberry.com" felis@xl.blackberry.com   felicia1001

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:53 am (PDT)



Mom,
Mengucap syukur dulu yuk sama2..sudah akan diberikan amanah lagi...
Sharing dikit yaaa...anak pertamaku hadir stlh ditunggu 3thn, sempat blighted ovum pula, cacar air di usia kehamilan 10mg..jadi pas dia lahir tak kurang satu apapun, bersyukur bgt..
Si kakak umur 2th8bln pas baru 2bln lepas spiral krn posisi geser, hamil lagi..kali ini pake ngeharap 'moga2 ceweeek'...tnyata pas usg dokternya lgsg bilang, 'bu, monasnya sdh keliatan ya"..sebel sedikittt, tp abis itu ya udah, mau laki mau perempuan, yang penting HARUS sehat.. (Maksa.com).
Si bungsu abis ultah ke2, smbl msh terus usaha nyapih, baru nyadar lg kok badan gendutan, ternyataaaa hamil..dan pas ke dokter, sudah 18minggu! Kontrol kedua sdh ketauan lg jenis kelaminnya, Jreng..jreng...Monas lagiiii....yaaaa, gak bisa kecewa marah ataupun apa juga, namanya juga bonus, gak bisa milih. Lagian gimana mau milih, org jadinya aja gk kerasa....
Nah si bungsu sekarang sdh 6bulan..

Intinya gini ya mom, saya pny anak 3 laki2, tidak ada yang sama satupun..wajahnya, pola tidurnya, pola nyusunya, pola makannya, tabiatnya, suaranya...yang sama cuma satu, jenis kelaminnya..si sulung itu pendiam, cenderung peragu, pemikir, tapi imajinasinya tinggi..sementara si tengah sgt spontan, gaul abis dan outspoken, si bungsu belum ketauan...sehingga sy harus mempunyai pola asuh dan komunikasi yg berbeda2 utk setiap anak.
Dan saya juga berpikir bhw saya ini sdh berada dlm sekolah kehidupan, dimana guru2 besarnya adalah ketiga krucils saya tersebut.

Mom tdk usah terlalu takut, sedih, galau dkk yaaa..dinikmati saja mom, skrg kan byk bahan referensi utk tmpt kita mcari info,ada kumpulan org tua, ada milis sehat yg anggotanya selalu murah hati membagi pengetahuan dan pengalaman...

Mom, semoga kehamilannya lancaaar, dan happy selalu, Aamiin..
Salam,
Felis
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4f.

Re: Punya anak laki?

Posted by: "Hilda" hilda.iriany@gmail.com   h_iriany

Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:04 am (PDT)



Ibu'ne Andra....
Bismillah.
Jalani saja.
Ndak ada yg ngalahin naluri ibu.
Belom kejadian, ndak usah dipikirin, hehe.

Hilda

5a.

Re: Artikel Dukungan untuk Imunisasi di Blog Gene Netto

Posted by: "yuti dewita arimbi" yuti.dewita@gmail.com

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:51 am (PDT)



wkwkwk mbk iraaa...kt nanti bedua lho yg ditimpuk hihihi

yaaah kt jg ga boleh menutup smua kemungkinan itu kan ya? kalo aku baca dr
postingan tadi, itu kesimpulan aku dan suami (juga) yg sering ntn film
konspirasi hihihi

*maaf mod jd OOT :D

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6a.

Re: berat badan anak

Posted by: "Bong Mi Yun" bongmiyun@gmail.com   bongmiyun

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:07 am (PDT)



Mba Oja,

AAP merekomendasikan bayi umur 12 bln untuk skrining ADB... keputusan
ditangan mba...dimilis sering skali di bahas ttg ADB ini...

Saya sendiri merasa beruntung melakukan skrining ke baby saya, ngga
kebayang kalo sebaliknya...

Regards,
Mi Yun

7a.

Re: Ditolak imunisasi campak, karena ada riwayat kejang

Posted by: "angel.encis@gmail.com" angel.encis@gmail.com   indahlife

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:25 am (PDT)



Ga bener tuh.kalo ada riwayat kejang mah mo suhu tubuh berapa aja juga kejang.bukan karena imunisasinya.

Angel
Emaknya encis n twinnies inside

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