Friday, October 21, 2011

[sehat] Digest Number 16305

Milis SEHAT Group

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: KGB bengkak lebih dari 1 From: purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id
1b.
Re: KGB bengkak lebih dari 1 From: meiree2605@yahoo.com
1c.
Re: KGB bengkak lebih dari 1 From: Arifianto
2a.
Re: [TANYA] ngukur suhu n ngasi obat k anak From: axelle.nostrada@gmail.com
2b.
Re: [TANYA] ngukur suhu n ngasi obat k anak From: ChiciErnest
2c.
Re: [TANYA] ngukur suhu n ngasi obat k anak From: axelle.nostrada@gmail.com
3.
[news] Whither the anti-vaccine movement? From: /ghz
4a.
Re: Hamil tapi masih menyusui From: pritha kurniasih
4b.
Re: Hamil tapi masih menyusui From: nicola11_11@yahoo.com
5a.
Re: Sharing Gagal Simultant ama Dokter di Depok From: gina
6a.
Re: Belum tumbuh gigi From: pritameani syafa'at
6b.
Re: Belum tumbuh gigi From: Husni Andi
6c.
Re: Belum tumbuh gigi From: Khonic
6d.
Belum tumbuh gigi From: Siti Masitoh
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Re: [TANYA] ruam merah d pipi bayi From: ursula_maniez@yahoo.com
8.
tulang batita kadang2 bunyi From: pritameani syafa'at
9a.
[Need Advice] Zat besi pencegah anemia From: Stacey Elizabeth
9b.
Fwd: [Need Advice] Zat besi pencegah anemia From: Stacey Elizabeth
10.
Nice opportunity!! From: lilih malihatun
11a.
Re: Pengaruh konsumsi MSG berlebihan terhdp ASI From: Gita Septhianie
12a.
OOT: Zang Da bocah luar biasa!!! From: wening2007@yahoo.co.id
12b.
Re: OOT: Zang Da bocah luar biasa!!! From: Husni Andi
12c.
Re: OOT: Zang Da bocah luar biasa!!! From: marcella.kasih@indosat.blackberry.com
13a.
Jumlah Jam Tidur Anak From: Ida kusumawaty
13b.
Re: Jumlah Jam Tidur Anak From: marcella.kasih@indosat.blackberry.com

Messages

1a.

Re: KGB bengkak lebih dari 1

Posted by: "purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id" purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id

Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:15 pm (PDT)



Dear Nova
Sebetulnya, ketika di keluarga ada penderita TB, maka harus dilakukan skrining pada seluruh angota keluarga, termasuk anak2
Untuk anak, harus di tes Mantoux, terlepas ada pembesaran kgb atau tidak

Seperti kata monik, bagaimana kalau 2nd opinion ke dsa paru?

Wati
Patient Safety, first

1b.

Re: KGB bengkak lebih dari 1

Posted by: "meiree2605@yahoo.com" meiree2605@yahoo.com   meiree2605

Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:29 pm (PDT)



Bunda waty, apa ada dsa paru RUM, siapa+RS mana ya? Tks
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1c.

Re: KGB bengkak lebih dari 1

Posted by: "Arifianto" arifianto.apin@gmail.com   foxapin11

Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:25 pm (PDT)



Untuk konsultan respirologi (paru) anak, ada Prof DR Dr Bambang Supriyatno, SpAK di Hermina Jatinegara dan Dr Darmawan B Setyanto, SpAK di Hermina/Mitra Bekasi.

Komentar lagi: ya, periksa dulu aja via 2nd opinion. Mungkin tidak perlu sampai biopsi KGB bila klinis TB-nya jelas.

apin

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> Bunda waty, apa ada dsa paru RUM, siapa+RS mana ya? Tks
> Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
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2a.

Re: [TANYA] ngukur suhu n ngasi obat k anak

Posted by: "axelle.nostrada@gmail.com" axelle.nostrada@gmail.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:17 pm (PDT)



Mbak elona,

Iya, sempet kepikiran juga sih pke yg termo telinga. Mahal g Æ" mbak? Trus aq pnah baca2 yg paling akurat tuh termo ketiak. Klo termo telinga n dahi mesti dtambah 0,5 drjt ya hasilnya? CMIIW
Lg g bisa ninggal anak k warnet bwt browsing neh. Ad yg bsa bantu?

Wulan
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2b.

Re: [TANYA] ngukur suhu n ngasi obat k anak

Posted by: "ChiciErnest" chici.ernest@gmail.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:20 pm (PDT)



Mbak Wulan,

Anak saya juga paling susah diukur dgn termo ketiak, akhirnya saya ngalah deh beli termo telinga yang harganya agak merogoh kocek. Soalnya butuh banget tau suhu klo anak demam sih, krn anak saya punya riwayat KD.
Kalau penurun panas juga agak suliitt, jd andalannya rendam air anget. Tapi kalau emang butuh bgt parcet. Suka saya campur air anget dikit di sendoknya. Jd rasanya tdk terlalu pekat..
Maaf kalau tdk membantu

Regards,
@chiciernest

2c.

Re: [TANYA] ngukur suhu n ngasi obat k anak

Posted by: "axelle.nostrada@gmail.com" axelle.nostrada@gmail.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:25 pm (PDT)



Dear mbak cicie,
Dicampur air anget ya mbak? Wahhh boleh dicoba tuh.

Tx a lot
Wulan
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[news] Whither the anti-vaccine movement?

Posted by: "/ghz" ghozan10032005@gmail.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:24 pm (PDT)



sekedar bacaan pagi menemani secangkir kopi, siapa tahu bisa menambah
wawasan berfikir kita.

selamat beraktivitas 'man jada wa jada' (siapa yg bersungguh-sungguh
Insya Allah akan berhasil)

salam sehat
bapakeghozan

Whither the anti-vaccine movement?
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/10/whither_the_anti-vaccine_movement.php>

Category: Alternative medicine
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/medicine/alternative_medicine/> .
Antivaccination lunacy
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/medicine/antivaccination_lunacy/> .
Autism <http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/medicine/autism/> . Medicine
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/medicine/>
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:00 AM, by Orac
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence>

Yesterday, I congratulated that bane of anti-vaccine movement and great
vaccine scientist, Dr. Paul Offit, for having been accepted into the
Institute of Medicine
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/10/a_well-deserved_honor_is_bestowed.php>.
It's a huge honor, and one well-deserved. At the time, I contrasted Dr.
Offit, who has ascended to the highest heights of his profession through
good science, with Dr. Andrew Wakefield, architect (or at least the most
important architect) of the anti-MMR hysteria that gripped the U.K. in
the late 1990s that's only now starting to abate, who is reduced to
speaking in front of crank physician groups, being feted at anti-vaccine
conferences
<http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/crank-conferences-a-parody-of-science-based-medicine-that-can-suck-in-even-reputable-scientists-and-institutions/>,
and appearing at crank anti-vaccine demonstrations pathetic even by the
standards of crank anti-vaccine demonstrations
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/05/is_the_anti-vaccine_movement_fizzling.php>.
It almost makes me feel sorry for Wakefield. Almost.

In any case, at the time I said I'd try to soldier my way through the
video of Wakefield speaking at the annual meeting of the Ayn Randian
crank physician group the American Association of Physicians and
Surgeons (AAPS). And try I did. I really did. But even alcohol wasn't
enough to get me through all 45 minutes, and, given that it was a work
night, I was limited to only one or two beers at most. That's not nearly
enough. Deconstructing this much concentrated, neuron-apoptosing idiocy
is a weekend project. Actually, it's a vacation project, because I'd
need to ask one of my partners to cover for me. Wakefield's just not
worth it.

So, I had to find a different way to honor Dr. Offit, and I found it in
an article that was just published. It's by Anna Kirkland
<http://www.lsa.umich.edu/polisci/people/faculty/ci.kirklandanna_ci.detail>
at the University of Michigan entitled The Legitimacy of Vaccine
Critics: What Is Left after the Autism Hypothesis?
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22003097> I don't agree with
everything in the article, but it's a good primer on the recent history
of the anti-vaccine movement and speculates on what will come next now
that the hypothesis that vaccines cause autism has been so thoroughly
discredited.

Let's dispose of one thing right away that I don't particularly like
about the article:

The last dozen years have seen a massive transnational mobilization
of the legal, political, and research communities in response to the
worrisome hypothesis that vaccines could have a link to childhood
autism and other developmental conditions. Vaccine critics, some
already organized and some composed of newly galvanized parents,
developed an alternate world of internally legitimating studies,
blogs, conferences, publications, and spokespeople to affirm a
connection. When the consensus turned against the autism hypothesis,
these structures and a committed membership base unified all the
organizations in resistance. This article examines the relationship
between mobilization based on science and the trajectory of
legitimacy vaccine criticism has taken. I argue that vaccine critics
have run up against the limits of legitimate scientific argument and
are now in the curious position of both doubling down on
credibility-depleting stances and innovating new and possibly
resonant formulations.

While Kirkland gets a lot right in her article, I don't like the way she
writes, "when the consensus turned against the autism hypothesis." The
reason, of course, is that the scientific consensus was never /*for*/
the autism hypothesis to begin with. In strictly scientific terms, the
very most you can say about the vaccine-autism hypothesis is that for a
brief period of time scientists considered it not sufficiently
implausible (barely) to ignore completely, particularly given that the
fear mongering of the anti-vaccine movement was having an effect on
public confidence in the vaccine program. Over the last 15 years,
numerous studies have been done, and none of them performed by reputable
scientists using rigorous methodology have found a hint of a trace of a
whiff of an association between vaccines and autism. As I've said
before, the vaccine-autism hypothesis is no more! It has ceased to be!
It's expired and gone to meet its maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life,
it rests in peace! If anti-vaccinationists hadn't nailed it to the perch
it'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now history!
It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal
coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
The vaccine-autism hypothesis IS AN EX-HYPOTHESIS!!

To which, the anti-vaccine movement always replies, "It's pinin' for the
fjords."

Sorry. I know I use that routine
<http://www.mtholyoke.edu/%7Eebarnes/python/dead-parrot.htm> too much,
but it's so appropriate. I try to make sure that there are at least a
few months between uses. Of course, an alternate Monty Python analogy
for the vaccine-autism hypothesis is that it's very much like the Black
Knight in /Monty Python and the Holy Grail/
<http://youtu.be/zKhEw7nD9C4>, with science playing the role of King
Arthur. Kind of like:

Millions and millions of federal research dollars have been spent in
response to parents and their advocates' calls for answers. The
mainstream consensus from scientists and the courts has been
overwhelmingly against any connection between vaccines and autism.
Although all of these expenditures may now seem a waste of resources
on a discredited hypothesis, we must remember that uncertainty
existed initially and that the question was extremely urgent.

It fairly rapidly became apparent that this hypothesis had lost its arms
and legs. After the early 2000s, there was plenty of evidence to
conclude quite reasonably from a scientific basis that there was no
correlation between vaccines and autism. Arguably, far more money has
been spent on this question than actually needed to be spent to answer
the question, and more continues to be spent. No doubt anti-vaccine
advocates will try to portray this viewpoint contemptuously as "science
has spoken" or "the science has been settled," but in fact science has
more or less spoken and the science has been pretty well settled.
Scientists have looked and looked and looked for a correlation between
vaccines and autism and just haven't found it. That doesn't completely
rule out a link in rare situations, but it's pretty persuasive evidence
that neither vaccines nor the mercury that was in many childhood
vaccines until the end of 2001 are causes of the "autism epidemic."

What's more interesting is the question that Kirkland asks next. After a
description of the Autism Omnibus, she wonders, "But what should we make
of vaccine critics now, who have had such power to activate a research
agenda, command political attention, and conduct years of litigation, as
the consensus has settled against them?" While it's easy to be Orac and
answer as a bit of a smart-ass that there's nothing new to make of them
because they've always been a bunch of promoters of pseudoscience with
an extreme hostility towards legitimate science when it doesn't say what
they believe and what they want it to say. However, arguably, there is a
change in the anti-vaccine movement now that its best shots have come up
short, with study after study going against it and its lynchpin effort
(the Autism Omnibus) crashing and burning.

Kirkland then decides to discuss what she considers to be the two most
important and influential anti-vaccine groups, the National Vaccine
Information Center (the NVIC, Barbara Loe Fisher's group) and SafeMinds
(Sallie Bernard's group), both of which she describes as the "go-to
representatives for vaccine concerns in the policy process" and as
having "no real competitors." I had to chuckle at that passage, because
that's "gonna leave a mark," as they say, on J.B. Handley and his group
Generation Rescue. In fact, I'm half-tempted to e-mail J.B. a copy of
the PDF file. Whatever J.B. thinks about being so seriously snubbed, I'm
not sure I agree with Kirkland here in virtually completely dismissing
Generation Rescue thusly:

This organization is oriented to serving parents much more than it
is focused on policy, so it is not as important to this analysis.

Be that as it may, Kirkland accurately describes the increasingly large
series of papers that started hitting the medical literature in the
early 2000s that failed to find any correlation between vaccines and
autism or thimerosal in vaccines and autism. She also concisely
describes the fall of Andrew Wakefield, all the way to the General
Medical Council of the U.K. stripping of him of his license to practice,
appropriately pointing out that he is a "charismatic leader" upon whom
the anti-vaccine movement relied too much, such that when his fall came
they didn't know what to do. Pointing out that the MMR vaccine never had
thimerosal in it, she writes:

Policy makers and experts in the vaccine program believe vaccines
are a lifesaving intervention backed by a proven system of pre-and
postlicensure testing and surveillance, and that adverse events are
rare. Critics believe that vaccines are damaging on a wide scale and
promoted in bad faith by corrupted officials. All the
vaccine-critical organizations have doubled down on the autism
hypothesis and continue to embrace its discredited expositors
(Habakus and Holland 2011; Fisher 2010). This gulf has been
unbridgeable.

It's amusing how Kirkland cites the book by Louise Kuo Habakus and Mary
Holland's book Vaccine Epidemic
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/02/ethics_and_the_promotion_of_antivaccine_book.php>,
as evidence of how the anti-vaccine movement still embraces discredited
expositors of the vaccine-autism hypothesis. In any case, it turns out
that Kirkland did a lot of her research attending the 2009 NVIC
conference
<http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/crank-conferences-a-parody-of-science-based-medicine-that-can-suck-in-even-reputable-scientists-and-institutions>
in order to see the "scientific leaders" of the anti-vaccine movement up
close and personal, eschewing Generation Rescue's preferred conference,
Autism One, as being primarily geared at parents and:

Autism One is also known for excluding journalists perceived to be
hostile to the conference's message, while the NVIC event was
explicitly open to the public. My IRB approval does not include any
deceptive presentation, nor would I have been comfortable posing as
a parent of a child with a disability.

I'm starting to like this Anna Kirkland, even though I don't agree with
all her conclusions. She is more or less accurate, however, in
describing what she calls the "typology of vaccine critics." These
include what she terms "activist parents," whom she notices as tending
to be "white and middle to upper income with college degrees." These
parents usually have a child with a disability, these days most
frequently autism or a related disorder, and blame vaccines. The next
type of "vaccine critic" (I dislike that term; Kirkland should call them
what they are: Anti-vaccine) is comprised of allied health professionals
with longstanding anti-vaccine views. These included various
"alternative medicine" practitioners, chiropractors, vaccine "skeptical"
MDs like our old friend Dr. Jay Gordon (whose recent appearance on TV
might be blog fodder soon), and others. Kirkland characterizes them as
often basing their opposition to vaccines in libertarian (or, as I would
have called it, "health freedom") political view and providing "critical
funding and publicity," along with an air of legitimacy:

These professionals share an antiregulatory political agenda that
keeps them in opposition to government regulation of supplements by
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration or to heath care reforms like
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or the creation of
registries and tracking of vaccination rates. The libertarian
physicians are opposed to electronic medical records, for example,
and no one who shares their perspective would support participation
in the public health surveillance that would help to monitor
postlicensure safety of vaccines and drugs (e.g., a national vaccine
registry). Members of this group hold the most extreme views, such
as denying that HIV causes AIDS (Null 2001), so managing the balance
between pleasing them and keeping their views from hurting wider
credibility is a big challenge.

The AAPS is an organization that fits this description almost perfectly
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/02/the_journal_of_american_physicians_and_s.php>.
It embraces many forms of denialism, including vaccine denialism,
anthropogenic global warming denialism, and the unsupported claim that
abortions cause breast cancer. No wonder it embraced Andrew Wakefield.

Tbe remaining categories include donors, "researchers" (quotation marks
mine; I wouldn't have called the likes of Mark and David Geier
"researchers" by any stretch of the imagination), and journalists,
bloggers, and other media producers. Many familiar characters are
discussed, such as the aforementioned Geiers, David Kirby, Arianna
Huffington and her stable of Huffington Post anti-vaccine bloggers and
quacks who have turned HuffPo into such a wretched hive of scum and
quackery, and the like. She does at least note that the anti-vaccine
movement's "researchers" tend to publish in non-peer-reviewed journals
of very low repute.

Putting it all together, Kirkland proposes three different competing
underpinnings of anti-vaccinationism. These include "holistic health
ontology." This is, of course, no surprise to anyone who's been
following the anti-vaccine movement as long as I have:

On this view, diseases of the past were actually defeated by
sanitation, homeopathy, and nutrition, not vaccines. Attributing
their vanquishing to vaccines is part of the orthodoxy of mainstream
medicine. The foundational disagreement is whether the germ theory
of disease is central to medicine (for a book- length treatment, see
Baker 1994, Appleton 2002, and Trebing 2004). As Palevsky (2009) put
it in his conference address: "So, in our conventional teaching,
there's this germ theory. And the theory is that microorganisms are
the cause of many diseases. . . . Might I say that this is just a
theory. Germs may play a role in children getting sick, but they may
not be the reason that children get sick."

Germ theory denialism, anyone?

Then, of course, there is the libertarian "health freedom" perspective:

The vaccine-critical movement is quintessentially neoliberal,
blending holistic self-care with the elevation of the individual and
the private family over collective goods. Maternal management of
every possible risk to her own children becomes paramount (Kaufman
2010).

It has been said that anti-vaccine activists are in essence selfish in
that arguments involving social responsibility and herd immunity fall on
deaf ears when directed at them. Remember my discussion of how
alternative medicine produces the "illusion of control
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/10/alternative_medicine_the_illusion_of_con.php>."
The anti-vaccine movement is a perfect example. Many of these parents
seem to think that they can prevent all diseases through giving their
children the right diet and the right lifestyle. If necessary, they
choose when to infect their children ("pox parties") in order to give
them "natural immunity" (as opposed to vaccine-based immunity, which
they reject as "unnatural"). They also take umbrage when it is pointed
out that their unvaccinated children are potential pools for
vaccine-preventable diseases to spread, an assumption seemingly based on
their tendency to all-or-nothing thinking. To their way of thinking, if
vaccines are 100% effective, then the vaccinated have nothing to fear
from the unvaccinated. Would that were true!

Where Kirkland stumbles is in characterizing the last underpinning of
the anti-vaccine movement as the "vaccine safety perspective" because,
if you really take a close look at claims that, "I'm not 'anti-vaccine,
I'm pro-safe vaccine" or claims of being a "vaccine safety advocate,"
you will inevitably find that this is just a smokescreen for
anti-vaccine views. Kirkland appears not to understand this and actually
takes "pro-safe vaccine" wing of the anti-vaccine movement at their
word. Even though she correctly identifies why a randomized "vaccinated
versus unvaccinated" study would be inherently unethical, she fails to
realize that all these calls for studying "vaccinated versus
unvaccinated" populations are in reality both a fishing expedition and a
delaying action. She quotes Vicky Debold saying, "We ask that the
government begin to fund research that evaluates the effect of
vaccination, against no vaccines at all, on biomarkers of immunity,
biomarkers for metabolic dysfunction, neuro-developmental outcomes,
including autism, immune-mediated illnesses of all sorts, autoimmunity,
allergies, asthma, epilepsy, intellectual and learning disabilities, all
the things that we know are epidemic in our children. We ask for all of
that." Unfortunately, she doesn't realize that for a study to be ethical
it is also necessary that there be preclinical and epidemiological data
supporting the need for such a study, and there just isn't any such
compelling data suggesting that all these biomarker studies would be
fruitful or likely to find anything of value, particularly given that
there are already plenty of studies failing to find any links between
vaccines and autism, learning disabilities, asthma, and adverse
neurodevelopmental outcomes. Similarly, Kirkland doesn't seem to
understand that the purpose of calling for studies looking for subgroups
that are "hypersusceptible" to vaccine injury serves a similar purpose.
They function to create doubt where scientifically there is little or no
doubt. They serve to provide the illusion that there is a scientific
question remaining.

In fact, these studies are nothing more than moving the goalposts. When
studies failed to find a relationship between thimerosal in vaccines and
autism, anti-vaccinationists started invoking the "toxin gambit
<http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/10/the_toxin_gambit_on_steroids.php>"
in which they point to every single scary-sounding chemical in vaccines
and claim that they have to be studied for safety. Or another good
example is how after studies failed to link vaccines to autism
anti-vaccine activists pivoted effortlessly to claim that it was "too
many too soon" that were "overwhelming" the immune system as a rationale
for delaying vaccines. No matter what scientific studies come out
failing to support the anti-vaccine hypothesis /du jour/, anti-vaccine
activists always--always--find a way to shift the goalposts to a new
hypothesis. These are not legitimate "vaccine safety" activists. In
fact, I highly doubt that such a creature exists, at least not
affiliated with organizations like the NVIC or SafeMinds. Moreover,
there is always one characteristic in all of the hypotheses of autism
causation that these groups propose. Like the "fixed point in time" in
the last couple of seasons of Doctor Who, the fixed point in time and
space in the anti-vaccine universe is that, whatever reason for autism
causation anti-vaccinationists think of, vaccines will always somehow be
involved as a cause. Always. Because to them, it'a always about the
vaccines.

None of this stops Kirkland from ending with a plea:

There will no doubt continue to be a vaccine-critical movement
composed of all the parts described here, but it will be interesting
to see how different components manage this new context of
diminished scientific resonance for the claims of the last decade.
One view of the role of advocacy groups in democratic government is
that they play a critical role in keeping important items on the
agenda, synthesizing information for the general public, and
promoting accountability. Vaccine safety is a critically important
public concern, but I fear we have not been well served by leading
groups who currently own the issue. My hope is that vaccine safety
advocates will reorient themselves toward critical yet epistemically
responsible collaboration with vaccine policy makers. Unfortunately,
that route looks increasingly difficult because of the alliances
that have held the movement as a whole together.

"We have not been well-served" by SafeMinds and the NVIC? Ya think?

To be fair, we all hope that vaccine safety advocates, if there are any
left affiliated with the anti-vaccine movement, will dissociate
themselves from the cranks and become a force for science-based vaccine
policy. I'm just not going to hold my breath waiting. Kirkland gets a
lot right in her post. Unfortunately, she falls into the same trap that
a lot of people naive to the movement tend to fall into, namely the trap
of not realizing that the anti-vaccine movement is an anti-science
movement that promotes pseudoscience and is unrelentingly opposed to
vaccines. People dedicated to actual science don't associate themselves
with the anti-vaccine movement; hence, these fantastical "reasonable"
activists who are "pro-vaccine safety" are not to be found in or
associated with groups like SafeMinds, the NVIC, or Generation Rescue.
Such people might have existed at one time (indeed, Barbara Loe Fisher
probably originally fit the description of a "vaccine safety advocate"
back in the 1980s when she got started but long ago devolved into
anti-vaccine crankery), but in the anti-vaccine movement of the last
decade or so? Not so much. It's a shame Kirkland apparently didn't
realize that, but on the other hand she did an excellent job of pointing
out how marginalized the anti-vaccine movement has become. It's rapidly
on its way to joining creationists far out on the fringe.

Of course, perhaps it only seems that she falls into this trap because
you can't explicitly call a crank a crank in academic literature. Let's
hope so. In the meantime, the anti-vaccine movement, having had the last
shred of its already underwhelming scientific credibility reduced to
nothing, is descending further and further into denialism and pseudoscience.

_/REFERENCE/_:

Kirkland, A. (2011). The Legitimacy of Vaccine Critics: What Is Left
after the Autism Hypothesis? Journal of Health Politics, Policy and Law
DOI: 10.1215/03616878-1496020 <http://dx.doi.org/10.1215/03616878-1496020>

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/10/whither_the_anti-vaccine_movement.php

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4a.

Re: Hamil tapi masih menyusui

Posted by: "pritha kurniasih" pritha.saja@gmail.com   aphrodite_flyhigh

Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:12 pm (PDT)



sy jg hamil dan menyusui mbak,,sm DSOG nya dsuruh nyapih,,tp sy nya gak
tega,,pdhl Asha udah 2thn jg,,hehe..

soal sufor dan uht,,pengalaman sy sm Asha,,sufor gak signifikan menaikkan
bb,,yg ada sy yg repot sekarang,,tadinya dy mw minum uht plain,,sm dsa
dsuruh ganti pk sufor aja jgn uht,,
nah,,pk sufor kan rasanya lebih manis,,dy doyan bener,,tp bb malah gak
naik2,,sekarang mw sy balikin uht plain lg udah susah,,skrg dy minum uht
plain sy campur sm uht coklat,,tar niatnya pelan2 coklatnya sy
kurangin,,hehe..karena sy baca dmana gt,,justru lemak d uht lebih tinggi
drpd d sufor,,jd dluar,,sufor utk anak obes,,CMIIW y,,sy lupa2 ingat
soalnya..

Hth mbak,,

Regard,,
Pritha-mamaAsha

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4b.

Re: Hamil tapi masih menyusui

Posted by: "nicola11_11@yahoo.com" nicola11_11@yahoo.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:16 pm (PDT)



Rr
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-----Original Message-----
From: pritha kurniasih <pritha.saja@gmail.com>
Sender: sehat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:12:20
To: <sehat@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: sehat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sehat] Hamil tapi masih menyusui

sy jg hamil dan menyusui mbak,,sm DSOG nya dsuruh nyapih,,tp sy nya gak
tega,,pdhl Asha udah 2thn jg,,hehe..

soal sufor dan uht,,pengalaman sy sm Asha,,sufor gak signifikan menaikkan
bb,,yg ada sy yg repot sekarang,,tadinya dy mw minum uht plain,,sm dsa
dsuruh ganti pk sufor aja jgn uht,,
nah,,pk sufor kan rasanya lebih manis,,dy doyan bener,,tp bb malah gak
naik2,,sekarang mw sy balikin uht plain lg udah susah,,skrg dy minum uht
plain sy campur sm uht coklat,,tar niatnya pelan2 coklatnya sy
kurangin,,hehe..karena sy baca dmana gt,,justru lemak d uht lebih tinggi
drpd d sufor,,jd dluar,,sufor utk anak obes,,CMIIW y,,sy lupa2 ingat
soalnya..

Hth mbak,,

Regard,,
Pritha-mamaAsha


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5a.

Re: Sharing Gagal Simultant ama Dokter di Depok

Posted by: "gina" gina_fiskal@yahoo.com   gina_fiskal

Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:20 pm (PDT)



bundo nayya,

tos dulu ah kemarin juga gagal stimultan DPT+Hib+Polio sama Varicella 2, varicella nya yang ngalah krn DSA ngotot di jadwal IDAI cuman sekali :(
kalo boleh saran sih emang better ke markas, ga jauh ah dari depok ke markas kebetulan aku juga dari depok :)
aku nyesel malah kmrn dah ke markas untuk stimultan ini gara2 ga sabar antri 8 org lain aku mutusin ke DSA :( yang ada menyesal krn harus ke markas lagi buat varicella 2 nya hehehe...

cheers,
gina

6a.

Re: Belum tumbuh gigi

Posted by: "pritameani syafa'at" yazieta@yahoo.co.uk   yazieta

Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:34 pm (PDT)



Anak kedua kami (13bln) baru tumbuh gigi umur 11 bulan lebih. Mpe sekarang baru 3 giginya (setelah dua gigi bawah, malah taring atas. orang-orang pada heran.) Menjelang 11 bulan saya konsultasikan ke dokter gigi anak langganan kakaknya. Kata dokter, bisa jadi karena gusinya tebal sehingga tumbuhnya lama. Bisa juga faktor genetik (tapi, ini jarang sekali terjadi). Ketika itu sih, dokter bilang ditunggu hingga usia sekitar 12 bulan, kalau belum ada tanda2 dirontgen (duh, bayi dirontgen? kasihan). Karena Uma masih ASI, saya disarankan minum suplemen kalsium. Selain itu, dipancing dengan finger food. Apel menurutnya paling pas, potong agak tipis dan berikan pada anak. Makanannya juga jangan terlalu lembek. Somehow, bayi/batita punya mekanisme biar gak tersedak makanan (katanya sih gitu). Saya praktekkan pada Uma demikian.

Semoga membantu.
 
Salam
-Prita-

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6b.

Re: Belum tumbuh gigi

Posted by: "Husni Andi" twins.seven@gmail.com   desaranjani

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:03 pm (PDT)



Dear Doc, SP
Nimbrung tanya, apakah perihal tumbuh gigi ini genetis?
karena sama seperti istri, anak kami 2y masih belum lengkap giginya. atas
masih 4, dan bawah juga masih 4 posisi depan semua. Apakah ada yg perlu di
perhatikan lebih lanjut?

2011/10/21 pritameani syafa'at <yazieta@yahoo.co.uk>

> **
>
>
> Anak kedua kami (13bln) baru tumbuh gigi umur 11 bulan lebih. Mpe sekarang
> baru 3 giginya (setelah dua gigi bawah, malah taring atas. orang-orang pada
> heran.) Menjelang 11 bulan saya konsultasikan ke dokter gigi anak langganan
> kakaknya. Kata dokter, bisa jadi karena gusinya tebal sehingga tumbuhnya
> lama. Bisa juga faktor genetik (tapi, ini jarang sekali terjadi). Ketika itu
> sih, dokter bilang ditunggu hingga usia sekitar 12 bulan, kalau belum ada
> tanda2 dirontgen (duh, bayi dirontgen? kasihan). Karena Uma masih ASI, saya
> disarankan minum suplemen kalsium. Selain itu, dipancing dengan finger food.
> Apel menurutnya paling pas, potong agak tipis dan berikan pada anak.
> Makanannya juga jangan terlalu lembek. Somehow, bayi/batita punya mekanisme
> biar gak tersedak makanan (katanya sih gitu). Saya praktekkan pada Uma
> demikian.
>
> Semoga membantu.
>
> Salam
> -Prita-
>
> ________________________________
>
>
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>
>
>

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6c.

Re: Belum tumbuh gigi

Posted by: "Khonic" khonic@gmail.com   khonic_ds

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:04 pm (PDT)



Hei mba Ndari,
Sama ama mba Prita, anak saya juga disuruh dsanya poto panoramik (rontgen buat gigi) diumur 11 bulan pd saat kontrol habis sakit usia 10bln dsa-nya ngomong : klo sampe bulan depan ga numbuh gigi juga di panoramik ya bu, jangan2 ga ada giginya. Halaaah.. Paniklah saya, apalagi ga lama setelah itu ada di berita anak umur 10th bener2 ga tumbuh gigi (>_<)
Akibat ngobrol di milis sehat saya lebih tenang jika sampai 18bln baru boleh panik hehehe.. Akhirnya diumur 13 bulan lewat 1 mg langsung muncul tuh gigi yg ditunggu2 ga tanggung2 langsung 2 (atas n bawah bareng) selang beberapa hari muncul lagi bawahnya 2 (jd atas 1 bawah 3).. Bulan depannya (14bulan) muncul 1 atas, total jd 5 sekarang (mau 15 bulan) belom muncul2 lagi..
Tenang aja mba, tiap bayi itu unik, begitu juga giginya hehehe..
Coba dirangsang sama finger food yg "agak" keras, kalo anak saya ga mau gigit2 teether soalnya..

Semoga lebih tenang ya..

Khonic
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6d.

Belum tumbuh gigi

Posted by: "Siti Masitoh" Siti.Masitoh@astragraphia.co.id

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:13 pm (PDT)




Mba Ndari,tidak perlu kawatir itu masih normal kok karena setiap perkembangan anak kan beda-beda ya. Dulu anak saya 5 bln dah tumbuh gigi 4 tapi jalan dan merangkanya pada usia 16 bln.

Salam,
Siti

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7.

Re: [TANYA] ruam merah d pipi bayi

Posted by: "ursula_maniez@yahoo.com" ursula_maniez@yahoo.com   ursula_maniez

Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:35 pm (PDT)



Dear SPs mo mnta tlong donk
Udah 3 hari ini pipi sbelah kiri Ichi tampak merah. Sampai kmarin sy pkir cm merona aja krn suhu lg panas n dia udah mlai jalan jd aktivitasx dah d luar kamar yg ber-ac (sputar r.tengah dan r.tamu).
Tp smalam plg kantor kucek kok merah2x itu jd agk kasar walopun ga trasa berbintik2 kyak biang kringat (duh binun menjabarkanx).
Sy bs googling pake keyword apa ya? Apa ada SPs yg bs ksih pencerahan kira2 itu ruam apaan ya?
Sjauh ini ga ganggu. Ichi tetap ceria,makan banyak,tdur normal,dan ga garuk2 pipix.
Makasih utk pencerahanx
Ursula
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8.

tulang batita kadang2 bunyi

Posted by: "pritameani syafa'at" yazieta@yahoo.co.uk   yazieta

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:07 pm (PDT)



Anak kedua kami (13bulan) sekitar sebulan ini jika diangkat hendak digendong dari posisi berdiri, kadang-kadang terdengar bunyi "krek". Ada yang bilang karena bayinya kecapekan sehingga dah saatnya dipijat bayi. Normalkah ini?

Sampai saat ini Uma  masih ASI (belum minum UHT--merasa masih cukup produksi ASI-nya) dan MPASI homemade. Saya penderita scoliosis (saya lupa persisnya berapa derajat, tapi hingga memengaruhi bentuk pinggul yang tidak sama kanan-kirinya). Saya minum suplemen kalsium dan biasanya berjemur sebentar sembari menyirami tanaman (untuk vit D).

Trim's. 

 
Salam
-Prita-

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9a.

[Need Advice] Zat besi pencegah anemia

Posted by: "Stacey Elizabeth" staceyelizabeth11@gmail.com   sophia_hcl

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:14 pm (PDT)



Dear docs & sps,

Mohon maaf sebelumnya kalau ini sudah pernah dibahas sebelumnya.
Saya search di web milis tapi tidak ketemu jawabannya.

Need advice mengenai zat besi pencegah anemia.

2 hari yang lalu, anak saya (baby girl), 8 bulan 24 hari divaksin. Dokter
resepin ferlin drop 0.6ml 1 kali sehari utk mencegah anemia.
Record bb anak saya di chart WHO selama ini ok, dgn persentil berikut :

Month Persentil BB
0 46.76056
1 53.6872
2 58.44067
4 62.0899
5 65.5269
6 67.25977
7 68.84898
9 71.77289

Apakah memang diperlukan ferlin 0.6ml sehari sekali utk pencegahan anemia?
Atau pencegahan bisa lewat makanannya sehari2 yang tinggi dgn zat besi
(sayur2an, daging merah, ikan, dll). karena saya liat pertumbuhan berat
badannya tidak bermasalah.

Mohon respond dan advicenya.

Thx n rgds,
Sophia

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9b.

Fwd: [Need Advice] Zat besi pencegah anemia

Posted by: "Stacey Elizabeth" staceyelizabeth11@gmail.com   sophia_hcl

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:25 pm (PDT)



Dear docs n sps,

Sorry ga potek. Mau koreksi email sblumnya, salah liat table :p

Persentil BB sbb:

Month Persentil BB
0 2.677725
1 4.1873
2 5.596104
4 6.4237
5 7.495018
6 7.925102
7 8.299352
9 8.935413

Thx n rgds,
Sophia

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Dear docs & sps,

Mohon maaf sebelumnya kalau ini sudah pernah dibahas sebelumnya.
Saya search di web milis tapi tidak ketemu jawabannya.

Need advice mengenai zat besi pencegah anemia.

2 hari yang lalu, anak saya (baby girl), 8 bulan 24 hari divaksin. Dokter
resepin ferlin drop 0.6ml 1 kali sehari utk mencegah anemia.
Record bb anak saya di chart WHO selama ini ok, dgn persentil berikut :

Month Persentil BB
0 46.76056
1 53.6872
2 58.44067
4 62.0899
5 65.5269
6 67.25977
7 68.84898
9 71.77289

Apakah memang diperlukan ferlin 0.6ml sehari sekali utk pencegahan anemia?
Atau pencegahan bisa lewat makanannya sehari2 yang tinggi dgn zat besi
(sayur2an, daging merah, ikan, dll). karena saya liat pertumbuhan berat
badannya tidak bermasalah.

Mohon respond dan advicenya.

Thx n rgds,
Sophia

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10.

Nice opportunity!!

Posted by: "lilih malihatun" lilieho@yahoo.com   lilieho

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:15 pm (PDT)



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11a.

Re: Pengaruh konsumsi MSG berlebihan terhdp ASI

Posted by: "Gita Septhianie" pinkku_116@yahoo.com   pinkku_116

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:19 pm (PDT)



Thanks mbak monika link nya :)

12a.

OOT: Zang Da bocah luar biasa!!!

Posted by: "wening2007@yahoo.co.id" wening2007@yahoo.co.id   wening2007

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:35 pm (PDT)



Dear all...
Smg kisah dibawah ini bisa menjadi pelajaran bagi qta ;)

Salam,
Iin aka Wening

Zhang Da Bocah Yang Luar Biasa!!Islamedia - Seorang anak di China pada 27 Januari 2006 mendapat penghargaan tinggi dari pemerintahnya karena dinyatakan telah melakukan "Perbuatan Luar Biasa". Diantara 9 orang peraih penghargaan itu, ia merupakan satu-satunya anak kecil yang terpilih dari 1,4 milyar penduduk China.Yang membuatnya dianggap luar biasa ternyata adalah perhatian dan pengabdian pada ayahnya, senantiasa kerja keras dan pantang menyerah, serta perilaku dan ucapannya yang menimbulkan rasa simpati.Sejak ia berusia 10 tahun (tahun 2001) anak ini ditinggal pergi oleh ibunya yang sudah tidak tahan lagi hidup bersama suaminya yang sakit keras dan miskin. Dan sejak hari itu Zhang Da hidup dengan seorang Papa yang tidak bisa bekerja, tidak bisa berjalan, dan sakit-sakitan.Kondisi ini memaksa seorang bocah ingusan yang waktu itu belum genap 10 tahun untuk mengambil tanggungjawab yang sangat berat. Ia harus sekolah, ia harus mencari makan untuk Papanya dan juga dirinya sendiri, ia juga harus memikirkan obat-obat yang yang pasti tidak murah untuk dia. Dalam kondisi yang seperti inilah kisah luar biasa Zhang Da dimulai.Ia masih terlalu kecil untuk menjalankan tanggung jawab yang susah dan pahit ini. Ia adalah salah satu dari sekian banyak anak yang harus menerima kenyataan hidup yang pahit di dunia ini. Tetapi yang membuat Zhang Da berbeda adalah bahwa ia tidak menyerah.Hidup harus terus berjalan, tapi tidak dengan melakukan kejahatan, melainkan memikul tanggungjawab untuk meneruskan kehidupannya dan Papanya. Demikian ungkapan Zhang Da ketika menghadapi utusan pemerintah yang ingin tahu apa yang dikerjakannya.Ia mulai lembaran baru dalam hidupnya dengan terus bersekolah. Dari rumah sampai sekolah harus berjalan kaki melewati hutan kecil. Dalam perjalanan dari dan ke sekolah itulah, Ia mulai makan daun, biji-bijian dan buah-buahan yang ia temui.Kadang juga ia menemukan sejenis jamur, atau rumput dan ia coba memakannya. Dari mencoba-coba makan itu semua, ia tahu mana yang masih bisa ditolerir oleh lidahnya dan mana yang tidak bisa ia makan.Setelah jam pulang sekolah di siang hari dan juga sore hari, ia bergabung dengan beberapa tukang batu untuk membelah batu-batu besar dan memperoleh upah dari pekerjaan itu. Hasil kerja sebagai tukang batu ia gunakan untuk membeli beras dan obat-obatan untuk papanya.Hidup seperti ini ia jalani selama 5 tahun tetapi badannya tetap sehat, segar dan kuat. Zhang Da merawat Papanya yang sakit sejak umur 10 tahun, ia mulai tanggungjawab untuk merawat papanya.Ia menggendong papanya ke WC, ia menyeka dan sekali-sekali memandikan papanya, ia membeli beras dan membuat bubur, dan segala urusan papanya, semua dia kerjakan dengan rasa tanggungjawab dan kasih. Semua pekerjaan ini menjadi tanggungjawabnya sehari-hari.Zhang Da menyuntik sendiri papanya. Obat yang mahal dan jauhnya tempat berobat membuat Zhang Da berpikir untuk menemukan cara terbaik untuk mengatasi semua ini. Sejak umur sepuluh tahun ia mulai belajar tentang obat-obatan melalui sebuah buku bekas yang ia beli.Yang membuatnya luar biasa adalah ia belajar bagaimana seorang suster memberikan injeksi / suntikan kepada pasiennya. Setelah ia rasa mampu, ia nekat untuk menyuntik papanya sendiri. Sekarang pekerjaan menyuntik papanya sudah dilakukannya selama lebih kurang lima tahun, maka Zhang Da sudah terampil dan ahli menyuntik.Ketika mata pejabat, pengusaha, para artis dan orang terkenal yang hadir dalam acara penganugerahan penghargaan tersebut sedang tertuju kepada Zhang Da, pembawa acara (MC) bertanya kepadanya,"Zhang Da, sebut saja kamu mau apa, sekolah di mana, dan apa yang kamu rindukan untuk terjadi dalam hidupmu? Berapa uang yang kamu butuhkan sampai kamu selesai kuliah?Besar nanti mau kuliah di mana, sebut saja. Pokoknya apa yang kamu idam-idamkan sebut saja, di sini ada banyak pejabat, pengusaha, dan orang terkenal yang hadir.Saat ini juga ada ratusan juta orang yang sedang melihat kamu melalui layar televisi, mereka bisa membantumu!"Zhang Da pun terdiam dan tidak menjawab apa-apa. MC pun berkata lagi kepadanya, "Sebut saja, mereka bisa membantumu."Beberapa menit Zhang Da masih diam, lalu dengan suara bergetar ia pun menjawab,"Aku mau mama kembali. Mama kembalilah ke rumah, aku bisa membantu papa, aku bisa cari makan sendiri, Mama kembalilah!"Semua yang hadir pun spontan menitikkan air mata karena terharu. Tidak ada yang menyangka akan apa yang keluar dari bibirnya. Mengapa ia tidak minta kemudahan untuk pengobatan papanya, mengapa ia tidak minta deposito yang cukup untuk meringankan hidupnya dan sedikit bekal untuk masa depannya?Mengapa ia tidak minta rumah kecil yang dekat dengan rumah sakit? Mengapa ia tidak minta sebuah kartu kemudahan dari pemerintah agar ketika ia membutuhkan, pasti semua akan membantunya.Mungkin apa yang dimintanya, itulah yang paling utama bagi dirinya. Aku mau Mama kembali, sebuah ungkapan yang mungkin sudah dipendamnya sejak saat melihat mamanya pergi meninggalkan dia dan papanya.Kisah di atas bukan saja mengharukan namun juga menimbulkan kekaguman. Seorang anak berusia 10 tahun dapat menjalankan tanggung jawab yang berat selama 5 tahun. Kesulitan hidup telah menempa anak tersebut menjadi sosok anak yang tangguh dan pantang menyerah.Zhang Da boleh dibilang langka karena sangat berbeda dengan anak-anak modern. Saat ini banyak anak yang segala sesuatunya selalu dimudahkan oleh orang tuanya. Karena alasan sayang, orang tua selalu membantu anaknya, meskipun sang anak sudah mampu melakukannya.
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12b.

Re: OOT: Zang Da bocah luar biasa!!!

Posted by: "Husni Andi" twins.seven@gmail.com   desaranjani

Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:46 pm (PDT)



sama seperti cerita adit di jombang, anak 5 tahun yang mengurus ibunya yang
lumpuh.
hanya saja bedanya, dia tidak belajar cara obat-obatan, mungkin belum bisa
membaca :)

2011/10/21 <wening2007@yahoo.co.id>

> Dear all...
> Smg kisah dibawah ini bisa menjadi pelajaran bagi qta ;)
>
> Salam,
> Iin aka Wening
>
>
>
> Zhang Da Bocah Yang Luar Biasa!!Islamedia - Seorang anak di China pada 27
> Januari 2006 mendapat penghargaan tinggi dari pemerintahnya karena
> dinyatakan telah melakukan "Perbuatan Luar Biasa". Diantara 9 orang peraih
> penghargaan itu, ia merupakan satu-satunya anak kecil yang terpilih dari 1,4
> milyar penduduk China.Yang membuatnya dianggap luar biasa ternyata adalah
> perhatian dan pengabdian pada ayahnya, senantiasa kerja keras dan pantang
> menyerah, serta perilaku dan ucapannya yang menimbulkan rasa simpati.Sejak
> ia berusia 10 tahun (tahun 2001) anak ini ditinggal pergi oleh ibunya yang
> sudah tidak tahan lagi hidup bersama suaminya yang sakit keras dan miskin.
> Dan sejak hari itu Zhang Da hidup dengan seorang Papa yang tidak bisa
> bekerja, tidak bisa berjalan, dan sakit-sakitan.Kondisi ini memaksa seorang
> bocah ingusan yang waktu itu belum genap 10 tahun untuk mengambil
> tanggungjawab yang sangat berat. Ia harus sekolah, ia harus mencari makan
> untuk Papanya dan juga dirinya sendiri, ia juga harus memikirkan obat-obat
> yang yang pasti tidak murah untuk dia. Dalam kondisi yang seperti inilah
> kisah luar biasa Zhang Da dimulai.Ia masih terlalu kecil untuk menjalankan
> tanggung jawab yang susah dan pahit ini. Ia adalah salah satu dari sekian
> banyak anak yang harus menerima kenyataan hidup yang pahit di dunia ini.
> Tetapi yang membuat Zhang Da berbeda adalah bahwa ia tidak menyerah.Hidup
> harus terus berjalan, tapi tidak dengan melakukan kejahatan, melainkan
> memikul tanggungjawab untuk meneruskan kehidupannya dan Papanya. Demikian
> ungkapan Zhang Da ketika menghadapi utusan pemerintah yang ingin tahu apa
> yang dikerjakannya.Ia mulai lembaran baru dalam hidupnya dengan terus
> bersekolah. Dari rumah sampai sekolah harus berjalan kaki melewati hutan
> kecil. Dalam perjalanan dari dan ke sekolah itulah, Ia mulai makan daun,
> biji-bijian dan buah-buahan yang ia temui.Kadang juga ia menemukan sejenis
> jamur, atau rumput dan ia coba memakannya. Dari mencoba-coba makan itu
> semua, ia tahu mana yang masih bisa ditolerir oleh lidahnya dan mana yang
> tidak bisa ia makan.Setelah jam pulang sekolah di siang hari dan juga sore
> hari, ia bergabung dengan beberapa tukang batu untuk membelah batu-batu
> besar dan memperoleh upah dari pekerjaan itu. Hasil kerja sebagai tukang
> batu ia gunakan untuk membeli beras dan obat-obatan untuk papanya.Hidup
> seperti ini ia jalani selama 5 tahun tetapi badannya tetap sehat, segar dan
> kuat. Zhang Da merawat Papanya yang sakit sejak umur 10 tahun, ia mulai
> tanggungjawab untuk merawat papanya.Ia menggendong papanya ke WC, ia menyeka
> dan sekali-sekali memandikan papanya, ia membeli beras dan membuat bubur,
> dan segala urusan papanya, semua dia kerjakan dengan rasa tanggungjawab dan
> kasih. Semua pekerjaan ini menjadi tanggungjawabnya sehari-hari.Zhang Da
> menyuntik sendiri papanya. Obat yang mahal dan jauhnya tempat berobat
> membuat Zhang Da berpikir untuk menemukan cara terbaik untuk mengatasi semua
> ini. Sejak umur sepuluh tahun ia mulai belajar tentang obat-obatan melalui
> sebuah buku bekas yang ia beli.Yang membuatnya luar biasa adalah ia belajar
> bagaimana seorang suster memberikan injeksi / suntikan kepada pasiennya.
> Setelah ia rasa mampu, ia nekat untuk menyuntik papanya sendiri. Sekarang
> pekerjaan menyuntik papanya sudah dilakukannya selama lebih kurang lima
> tahun, maka Zhang Da sudah terampil dan ahli menyuntik.Ketika mata pejabat,
> pengusaha, para artis dan orang terkenal yang hadir dalam acara
> penganugerahan penghargaan tersebut sedang tertuju kepada Zhang Da, pembawa
> acara (MC) bertanya kepadanya,"Zhang Da, sebut saja kamu mau apa, sekolah di
> mana, dan apa yang kamu rindukan untuk terjadi dalam hidupmu? Berapa uang
> yang kamu butuhkan sampai kamu selesai kuliah?Besar nanti mau kuliah di
> mana, sebut saja. Pokoknya apa yang kamu idam-idamkan sebut saja, di sini
> ada banyak pejabat, pengusaha, dan orang terkenal yang hadir.Saat ini juga
> ada ratusan juta orang yang sedang melihat kamu melalui layar televisi,
> mereka bisa membantumu!"Zhang Da pun terdiam dan tidak menjawab apa-apa. MC
> pun berkata lagi kepadanya, "Sebut saja, mereka bisa membantumu."Beberapa
> menit Zhang Da masih diam, lalu dengan suara bergetar ia pun menjawab,"Aku
> mau mama kembali. Mama kembalilah ke rumah, aku bisa membantu papa, aku bisa
> cari makan sendiri, Mama kembalilah!"Semua yang hadir pun spontan menitikkan
> air mata karena terharu. Tidak ada yang menyangka akan apa yang keluar dari
> bibirnya. Mengapa ia tidak minta kemudahan untuk pengobatan papanya, mengapa
> ia tidak minta deposito yang cukup untuk meringankan hidupnya dan sedikit
> bekal untuk masa depannya?Mengapa ia tidak minta rumah kecil yang dekat
> dengan rumah sakit? Mengapa ia tidak minta sebuah kartu kemudahan dari
> pemerintah agar ketika ia membutuhkan, pasti semua akan membantunya.Mungkin
> apa yang dimintanya, itulah yang paling utama bagi dirinya. Aku mau Mama
> kembali, sebuah ungkapan yang mungkin sudah dipendamnya sejak saat melihat
> mamanya pergi meninggalkan dia dan papanya.Kisah di atas bukan saja
> mengharukan namun juga menimbulkan kekaguman. Seorang anak berusia 10 tahun
> dapat menjalankan tanggung jawab yang berat selama 5 tahun. Kesulitan hidup
> telah menempa anak tersebut menjadi sosok anak yang tangguh dan pantang
> menyerah.Zhang Da boleh dibilang langka karena sangat berbeda dengan
> anak-anak modern. Saat ini banyak anak yang segala sesuatunya selalu
> dimudahkan oleh orang tuanya. Karena alasan sayang, orang tua selalu
> membantu anaknya, meskipun sang anak sudah mampu melakukannya.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
> Teruuusss...!
>
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>
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> PESAT (Program Edukasi Kesehatan Anak Untuk Orang Tua)."
>
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> - PT LG Electronics Indonesia as exclusive partner of FAMILY FUN DAY MILIS
> SEHAT 2011.
>
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> who have consistently sponsored our program, PESAT (Program Edukasi
> Kesehatan Anak Untuk Orang Tua)."
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12c.

Re: OOT: Zang Da bocah luar biasa!!!

Posted by: "marcella.kasih@indosat.blackberry.com" marcella.kasih@indosat.blackberry.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:03 pm (PDT)



Duh, tuh ibu, kasihan, gak tahu betapa kayanya dia, punya anak seperti itu.

Regards,
Marcella
*langsung menatap foto lin2 dan felix dan kabayang bau mereka pas bangun tidur
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13a.

Jumlah Jam Tidur Anak

Posted by: "Ida kusumawaty" ida.a.kusumawaty@gmail.com   ida_a_kusumawaty

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:07 pm (PDT)



Dear all,

Mo tanya donk, jumlah jam tidur anak idealnya berapa ya untuk setiap
kelompok umur? Untuk anak berumur 1-3 tahun, kalo tidur siang lebih dari 2
jam apakah normal? Haruskah dibangunkan?

Terima kasih.

Salam,
Mama Nayla

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13b.

Re: Jumlah Jam Tidur Anak

Posted by: "marcella.kasih@indosat.blackberry.com" marcella.kasih@indosat.blackberry.com

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:10 pm (PDT)



Kl aku sih enggak dibangunkan jeung, anak2ku kadang suka bablas kalau tidur siang.
Tapi 6¥06¤7siap aja mereka tidur malam.
Gitu aja sih.

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