Saturday, October 8, 2011

[sehat] Digest Number 16217

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Info jual / sewa freezer murah From: dinovianthi@gmail.com
1b.
Re: Info jual / sewa freezer murah From: Dwiana
1c.
Re: Info jual / sewa freezer murah From: heidy_jo@yahoo.com
2.
Re: Look what i found!! From: lilih malihatun
3a.
Pil kb untuk menyusui From: naila.zookie@gmail.com
3b.
Re: Pil kb untuk menyusui From: siti amatullah mutmainah
3c.
Re: Pil kb untuk menyusui From: naila.zookie@gmail.com
4a.
Re: please help...jempol tangan bernanah From: Siti Mawaddah
5.1.
Re: Radang tenggorokan From: siti amatullah mutmainah
6a.
Re: Reak yg menumpuk di paru2 From: yulianto
6b.
Re: Reak yg menumpuk di paru2 From: siti amatullah mutmainah
7.
rapid breathing From: Ade Novita Juliano
8a.
Re: Sofra-Tulle From: Stevy Erdiana
9a.
Re: Mohon penguatan - anak demam 39,8  ga turun2 From: F.B.Monika
9b.
Re: Mohon penguatan - anak demam 39,8  ga turun2 From: twinkle-little.z@telkomsel.blackberry.com
9c.
Re: Mohon penguatan - anak demam 39,8  ga turun2 From: twinkle-little.z@telkomsel.blackberry.com
10a.
Re: Obat Antikeguguran Tingkatkan Risiko Kanker pada Anak From: heidy_jo@yahoo.com
11.1.
Re: Anak 11m demam dan muntah From: siti amatullah mutmainah
12a.
Re: RE : beruntusan di pantat From: siti amatullah mutmainah
13a.
WTA : anak demam sudah 4 hari From: Fonika Mulyaningwati
13b.
Re: WTA : anak demam sudah 4 hari From: VIE
13c.
Re: WTA : anak demam sudah 4 hari From: Fonika Mulyaningwati
14.
Fwd: PSA test for prostate cancer not recommended From: Billy N.
15.
Fwd: Taking dietary supplements? It may be too much From: Billy N.
16a.
Re: File - [Harap Disimpan] Cara Setting Email & Bouncing From: Anita Dian Puspita

Messages

1a.

Re: Info jual / sewa freezer murah

Posted by: "dinovianthi@gmail.com" dinovianthi@gmail.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 1:08 pm (PDT)



Thanks mb marcela.
Hehe aku nebeng tretnya, mbak norma yg tadi pertama nanya freezer

*maaf, sengaja gak potek biar nyambung :)*

Thanks,
-dian-
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Mbak Dian
Itu cukup banget
Kan kerja, katakanlah 6 hari, masih ada spare 2 hari.
Week end kan bisa nambah tuh.
Jadi segitu ok kok.
Btw tadi yang bilang baru mau bikin persediaan bukan mbak kan ya ?
Soalnya segitu sih bukan kayak newbie, he2.
Top deh mbak.

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Marcella
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1b.

Re: Info jual / sewa freezer murah

Posted by: "Dwiana" dwiana7179@yahoo.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:11 pm (PDT)



Mbak Dian

Skg 42botol sih banyak mbak. Dan target 70botol pas masuk - luaar biasa!!
Sy dulu hbs cuti cm punya 30botol. Tp skg anak 10mos sy msh pny cadangan besi 74botol (hehe pamer)
Yg penting disiplin dan konsisten, selama kerja kita pumping sesuai jadwal. Nanti pasti bs nutup kok in-out gitu, jgn panik dg hasil. Just relax

Ana
Semangat nyetok ASI mbak

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1c.

Re: Info jual / sewa freezer murah

Posted by: "heidy_jo@yahoo.com" heidy_jo@yahoo.com   heidy_jo

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:19 pm (PDT)



Dear mba dian,

Cuma mau share aja, saya pas masuk kerja cuma punya 25 botol, 2 mgg pertama sih sistem fifo lancar dan stok tetap 25.

Level stress meningkat, jam mompa berkurang, stok ikutan berkurang. Baru 2 bulan balik kantor skrg sistem saya udah kejar setoran. Apa yg di pompa hari ini unt mimik besok. Untungnya udah mau lulus S1 asix tapi sport jantungnya itu lhoo.

Pengalaman teman kantorku lbh top lg, pas masuk asipnya 100 botol. Malah sempet nambah jd 200 botol, selang 2 bulan ngantor, kering kering ringgg. Penyebabnya : stress tinggi, travelling, jadwal mompa sempit.Yg ada malah nangis2 sedih, mau ngasi sufor serasa ngasi racun ke bayi.

Rata2 busui di kantorku tuh ga lulus S1 asix. Aku aja berdoa banget bs lewatin 3 mgg lg nih. Syukur2 bs lanjut.

Jadi mbaa, saya ga tau gimana tingkat stree kerjaan dikantor mba dian, tp kalo emang bisa nyetok sebanyak mungkin ya setoklah. It will never enough krn baby mimik tambah banyak.

Maap bukan nakut2in hanya sharing saja spy jangan pernah berpikir 'stok ku udah banyak' krn itu bisa berkurang dng cepat.

Maaf kalo ga membantu.

Salam,
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2.

Re: Look what i found!!

Posted by: "lilih malihatun" lilieho@yahoo.com   lilieho

Fri Oct 7, 2011 2:05 pm (PDT)



<p>Hola friend!<br>be inclined for your sake don't pass up it steal of a deal<br><a href="http://200.5.104.11/ColinGreen29.html">http://200.5.104.11/ColinGreen29.html</a><br>talk to you later</p>

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3a.

Pil kb untuk menyusui

Posted by: "naila.zookie@gmail.com" naila.zookie@gmail.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 2:05 pm (PDT)



Dear Dr n Sps

Saya mamanya zinedin(4month),sya mau nanya dong kalo pil kb yg aman u ibu menyusui apa ya?maaf kalo udah pernah di tanya:).
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3b.

Re: Pil kb untuk menyusui

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:12 pm (PDT)



Hi mba naila,
Betul bgt mba pil kb ini srg dibahas loh..
Bs kok ubek2 arsip milistnya
Sy hanya smpn satu link nih ..

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/mini-pills.htm

Rgds,
Ami




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3c.

Re: Pil kb untuk menyusui

Posted by: "naila.zookie@gmail.com" naila.zookie@gmail.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:01 pm (PDT)



Makasih mba ami:)
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Subject: Re: [sehat] Pil kb untuk menyusui

Hi mba naila,
Betul bgt mba pil kb ini srg dibahas loh..
Bs kok ubek2 arsip milistnya
Sy hanya smpn satu link nih ..

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/mini-pills.htm

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Ami




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4a.

Re: please help...jempol tangan bernanah

Posted by: "Siti Mawaddah" siti.mawaddah@gmail.com   mawaddah_1985

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:33 pm (PDT)



terimakasih banyak dokter untuk penjelasannya... jadi punya arah mau ke
mana..
sepertinya lebih tepat kena impetigo :'(
kalo gitu saya segera ke dokter anak.
trims
On Oct 7, 2011 11:06 PM, "yulianto" <yuliantosk@gmail.com> wrote:
> dear bu siti,
> bila ada nanah di bawah jari maka browsing paronychia
> bila ada luka di ujung jari, bila ada gatal, bintil" berisi air maka
> kemungkinan dermatitis, dan perlu dicari penyebabnya. Bila ada bintil
> lalu ada cairan kuning dan menjadi koreng yang cepat menyebar dari satu
> jari ke jari lainnya maka bisa impetigo.
>
> didiskusikan dengan dokter bu, bisa ke dokter anak
>
> salam,
> -anto-
>

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5.1.

Re: Radang tenggorokan

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:38 pm (PDT)



Dear mba nadhila,
Paracetamol diberikan jika anaknya merasa tdk nyaman dan rewel dgn demamnya ..
Radang tenggorokan bukan diagnosa medis, namun salah satu gejala..
Usianya sudah 11m yah? B'arti sdh bs makan yah, gmn kalau diberikan buah2an? Dipotong kecil2 skali, atau jus jeruk?
Asinya diperas lalu disendokin?
Dipaksa sedikit2 ya mba..

Cmiiw,
Ami


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6a.

Re: Reak yg menumpuk di paru2

Posted by: "yulianto" yuliantosk@gmail.com   anto_sk

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:40 pm (PDT)



dear bu lenni,
setahu saya tidak ada terapi membersihkan paru-paru.
dan tidak ada istilah membersihkan paru-paru agar tidak terkena radang paru.

batpil bisa karena virus atau bakteri. sebagian besar karena virus, dan
virus tidak bisa dibunuh bakteri, jadi tidak tepat kalau batpil harus
antibiotik, diagnosis dahulu, kalau karena virus tentu tidak perlu
batpil. Pilek bisa karena paparan lingkungan (debu, asap) jadi pilek
berulang tidak selalu karena infeksi.

Saluran napas ada silia / bulu getar, di kidshealth ada ilustrasinya,
you tube juga ada. silia bergerak satu arah untuk mengeluarkan lendir
dari saluran napas. bulu getar ini seringkali menjadi lemah pada perokok
atau yang terkena paparan asap rokok. pada orang normal yang sehat maka
riak/lendir tidak akan menumpuk di paru-paru (kecuali stroke, cystic
fibrosis)

lebih baik second opinion bu, cari pendapat kedua atau ketiga dari
dokter lain, dan minta diagnosis medis agar bisa kita bantu browsing.

salam,
-anto-

6b.

Re: Reak yg menumpuk di paru2

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:51 pm (PDT)



Dear mba lenni,
HT nya sdh benar tuh, byk minum dan makan yg berkuah ..

Demam utk infeksi virus dan bakteri beda loh ..
Hehehe sy baru blajar dari sakitnya anak sy kmrn ..
Yuk coba dibaca2 dari link yg dr.yoga sarankan atau bisa buka mayo ..
CC, selesma, pneumonia ada ciri lainnya selain demam, batuk :)

Saran sy, sblm diskusi dgn yg "klasik" (ngutip bunda) tetep amunisinya hrs okeh, spy kitanya jg jd ga terombang ambing , bingung sendiri :)

Alergi hilang sendiri kok mucusnya, slain pencetusnya dihindari, asupan nutrisi tetap diperhatikan, HT nya sami mawon mba ..

Maaf jika krg berkenan

Cheers,
Ami


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rapid breathing

Posted by: "Ade Novita Juliano" ade.novita.juliano@gmail.com   novita_ade

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:24 pm (PDT)



Dear All

dari beberapa tanda kegawatdaruratan pada anak, salah 1nya nafas cepat,

saya pernah lengah saat observasi anak saya yang demam, karena hanya
mengingat salah satu yang membuat nafas menjadi cepat adalah demam tinggi

ini beberapa artikel, untuk refresh memory aja yang berkaitan dgn rapid
breathing :)

http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical/asthma/flare_up.html

http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections/lung/pneumonia.html#a_When_to_Call_the_Doctor

salam,
@Ade_Novita

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8a.

Re: Sofra-Tulle

Posted by: "Stevy Erdiana" stevy_e@yahoo.com   stevy_e

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:37 pm (PDT)



Thank you yah buat sharing nya, sekarang sich luka nya sudah kering.
Aku juga mencoba luka nya tidak ditutup,agar tidak selalu basah.

Stevy
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Subject: Re: [SEHAT] Sofra-Tulle

Dear Mba Stevy,

Aku pernah kesiram air panas dilengan atas bagian dalam. Cukup mengerikan lah rupanya,hehe.tapi cuma dengan betadine plus kasa biasa saja,sambil diangin2 juga.karena aku perhatiin kalo ditutup kasa terus malah ga kering2/lama,begitu diangin2 tanpa tertutup kasa trs menerus jadinya lebih cepat sembuh.

Hth ya,
Lilis








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9a.

Re: Mohon penguatan - anak demam 39,8  ga turun2

Posted by: "F.B.Monika" f_monika_b@yahoo.com   f_monika_b

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:39 pm (PDT)



Dear Mba Twinkle,

Menambahi sedikit dari dr Endah n Mba Hilda, bila memang Kejang Demam Komplex bisa segera konsultasikan ke dr sp neuro anak. Semoga tidak ada komplikasi yg lain dan tetap tenang. Anak saya KDK Alhamdulilah setelah melalui pemeriksaan tidak apa2. Sekarang bekali bahan2 soal KD nya.

GWS untuk anaknya
F.B.Monika

9b.

Re: Mohon penguatan - anak demam 39,8  ga turun2

Posted by: "twinkle-little.z@telkomsel.blackberry.com" twinkle-little.z@telkomsel.blackberry.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:51 pm (PDT)



Dear moms,
Alhamdulillah anak sy uda sadar, smaleman kami tunggu dy untuk sadar dr pengaruh obat nya yg bkn ngantuk. Alhamdulillah pukul 23.00 dy sadar..nangis manggil mama papa (senangnya dgr tangisannya lg (ʃ˘̩̩̩_˘̩ƪ) )

Anak sy. Baru pertama kali ini mengalami kejang demam komplex..kejang pertama mulai dr rmh - ugd kira2 15 menitan (untung rmh dekat dg rs), berhenti setelah diberi obat.. Kemudian beberapa menit stlh di pindahkan ke kamar. Demam kejang lg lebih lama sekitar 1 jam. Perawat dan dokter melakukan tindakan medis dan mengompres sluruh tubuhnya dg air hangat (berasa seperti melihat film ER smaleem ).

Dsa sudah mengarahkan ke salah satu dsa ahli neuro untuk penanganan lebih lanjut.

Sekali lg sy mohon doa nya, agar tidak ada sesuatu yg berdampak pd pertumbuhan dan kesehatan anak sy selanjutnya..

Thx moms atas dukungannyaa..

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Re: Mohon penguatan - anak demam 39,8  ga turun2

Posted by: "twinkle-little.z@telkomsel.blackberry.com" twinkle-little.z@telkomsel.blackberry.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:00 pm (PDT)



Oiya menambahkan hasil tes darah anak sy normal, tapi hasil tes urin anak sy mengandung gula ? Mmg dr kakek sy dan nenek suami ada DM...
Dmn sy bs baca ttg dm pd anak ya moms.
Thx sblmnya
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Re: Obat Antikeguguran Tingkatkan Risiko Kanker pada Anak

Posted by: "heidy_jo@yahoo.com" heidy_jo@yahoo.com   heidy_jo

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:44 pm (PDT)



Hadoooh, saya jadi kepikiran terus nih mengenai obat ini.

Maaf sebut merk krn lg ga bs browsing, dulu saya diresepkan duphaston dan isoprinosine. Apakah 2 obat tsb tergolong obat anti keguguran??? Soalnya kata dsog pertama yg saya kunjungi itu obat unt menguatkan rahim.

Mohon tanggapannya milis member.

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11.1.

Re: Anak 11m demam dan muntah

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:15 pm (PDT)



Dear mba helis,
Sdb brp lama demamnya? 72jam bs cek urin utk singkirkan isk..

Kalau bs, dibuat diary demamnya..
Demam akan tetap ada selama infeksi virusnya msh ada..

Tetap observasi

Semoga lekas sembuh,
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12a.

Re: RE : beruntusan di pantat

Posted by: "siti amatullah mutmainah" amianakbinus@yahoo.com   amianakbinus

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:19 pm (PDT)



Dear mba euis,
Dijaga kelembabannya..
Stop pampers, clodi dahulu.. Bisa pakai celana pompom biasa atau clana dalam .. Lebih nyaman..
Stlh pipis atau pup, dikeringkan yah

Rgds,
Ami


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13a.

WTA : anak demam sudah 4 hari

Posted by: "Fonika Mulyaningwati" ika.aisyah@gmail.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:21 pm (PDT)



selamat pagi smart parents dan doctors yang baik,

saya sudah browse arsip milis, cuma saya masih belum nemu jawaban memuaskan
untuk pertanyaan saya :)
anak saya, perempuan, 5 tahun, mengalami demam sejak hari selasa sore,
sampai 38,5 dercel (sekarang sabtu pagi, jadi ini sudah hari keempat),
kondisi anak lemas (anak saya ini cerewet dan pecicilan, pecicilannya yang
hilang, tinggal cerewetnya saja, hehe), tapi masih mau intake cairan.
berikut kronologisnya :

- hari pertama (rabu) treatment saya cuma kompres air hangat dan massage
sendiri, rabu malam suhunya naik sampai 39,2, tidur tidak nyenyak dan mimpi
buruk.

- kamis pagi cek ke DSA, katanya demam karena radang, jadi diresepkan obat
turun panas dan pengurang nyeri. kata DSA nya kalau sampai sabtu tidak turun
juga, diminta tes darah. kamis sore suhu stabil di 37-38, tapi sempat
mimisan sedikit, yang membuat kami panik, karena anak ini belum pernah
mimisan sebelumnya. sms DSA nya, dianjurkan tes darah saat itu juga, hasil
tes darahnya semua masih di normal value kecuali leukosit yang valuenya
10500, normalnya maks 10000, sms lagi ke DSA nya, katanya diteruskan saja
obat turun panasnya karena kemungkinan itu cuma virus (yang belakangan
setelah saya baca baca arsip milis, ternyata leukosit diatas normal itu gak
masalah karena tubuh sedang melawan penyakit, CMIIW)

- jumat pagi bangun tidur suhu badan 36,5, kami sudah agak lega. tapi anak
masih agak lemas, mimisan lagi sedikit, dan mengeluh lututnya sakit. jumat
siang suhu kembali naik ke 38-39. jumat malam suhu tetep manteng di
38-38,7, sudah bisa tidur nyenyak

-sabtu pagi tadi bangun masih agak lemas, rencananya hari ini mau cek ke DSA
lagi

yang saya ingin tanyakan ke sps dan drs adalah, demam ini kenapa ya
sebabnya? apakah treatment yang harus kami lakukan? tidak ada ruam, tidak
ada batpil, tidak ada pusing kecuali hari rabu malam saja, saya cocokkan
dengan hasil browsing dan bongkar bongkar arsip milis, belum ada yang pas
sama ciri ciri sakit anak saya, jadi bingung :(

thanks in advance,

Fonika, mama aline

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13b.

Re: WTA : anak demam sudah 4 hari

Posted by: "VIE" home_vie@yahoo.com   home_vie

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:30 pm (PDT)



Kalau tdk ada batpil, diare atau muntah menyertai boleh cek urin utk menyingkirkan kemungkinan ISK. Utk lutut yg sakit coba browse "growing pains". Gws ya





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Re: WTA : anak demam sudah 4 hari

Posted by: "Fonika Mulyaningwati" ika.aisyah@gmail.com

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:40 pm (PDT)



thanks yah :) means a lot. saya barusan browse growing pains, saya coba dulu
urut kakinya, semoga dia merasa enakan.

sekali lagi thanks :)

2011/10/8 VIE <home_vie@yahoo.com>

> Kalau tdk ada batpil, diare atau muntah menyertai boleh cek urin utk
> menyingkirkan kemungkinan ISK. Utk lutut yg sakit coba browse "growing
> pains". Gws ya
>
>
>
>
>
> BR
> �K's mom�
>
> Sent from my k1mChiBerry�
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Fwd: PSA test for prostate cancer not recommended

Posted by: "Billy N." billy@hukum-kesehatan.web.id   yahrapha

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:29 pm (PDT)



http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-cancer-prostate-idUSTRE79605220111007
PSA test for prostate cancer not recommended: panel

Doctors criticized proposals by a government-backed panel recommending
against prostate cancer screening in healthy men -- saying they went
too far and may put some men at risk of the deadly cancer.
The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, which advises the government
on health prevention measures, on Friday downgraded its recommendation
on prostate cancer screening to a "D," which means it recommends
against the service because "there is moderate or high certainty that
the service has no net benefit or that the harms outweigh the
benefits."
It had previously said there was not enough evidence to make a call on
the use of prostate-specific antigen, or PSA, tests that measure
levels in the blood of a protein.
The task force made its recommendation based on a review of scientific
evidence that suggested the benefits of fewer cancer deaths was
overshadowed by potential serious side effects from treating a cancer
that might never have caused any harm.
The same panel caused a media storm in 2009 after it recommended
doctors scale back on routine mammograms for women in their 40s and
50s.
"Prostate cancer remains the second-leading cause of cancer death in
the United States," Dr. Scott Eggener, a surgeon who specializes in
prostate cancer at the University of Chicago.
He said while not perfect, PSA screening has definitely saved lives,
noting that widespread PSA screening in the United States has resulted
in a 30 percent decrease in death rates when adjusted for men's ages.
Several European clinical trials have also shown PSA screening saves
lives, Eggener said.
"Put simply, when PSA screening is used, fewer men develop metastatic
prostate cancer or die from it," he said.

SEVERAL CAUSES OF HIGH PSA
High or increasing levels of PSA can indicate an increased risk for
prostate cancer, but elevated PSA levels can be caused by other things
too, such as infections, an enlarged prostate or even recent
ejaculation.
Studies have shown that widespread use of PSA tests has resulted in
high rates of false positives and overtreatment for cancers that might
never have caused harm.
And the treatments -- usually surgery and radiation -- are not benign.
They often result in impotence and incontinence.
Simply being diagnosed with prostate cancer can cause anxiety and
harm. A study by researchers at Harvard and Brigham & Women's Hospital
in Boston last year found that being diagnosed with prostate cancer
roughly doubles the risk of suicide or death from a heart attack.
Results of studies looking at the benefits of widespread prostate
cancer screening have been mixed, according to the conclusions of a
review of studies set to be published next week but released early by
the Annals of Internal Medicine.
That review, which is used by the task force to make its
recommendations, noted that of the five screening trials it studied,
the two largest and highest-quality studies reported conflicting
results. One found screening was associated with reduced prostate
cancer deaths compared with no screening in men age 55 to 69 after
nine years.
The other found no statistically significant benefit after 10 years.
And of the men who had three or four rounds of screening, the false
positive rate was 12 to 13 percent.
"Prostate-specific antigen-based screening results in small or no
reduction in prostate cancer-specific mortality and is associated with
harms related to subsequent evaluation and treatments, some of which
may be unnecessary," the report concluded.

TOO DRASTIC
Critics said the studies were too short and argued that there is
evidence that PSA screening saves lives.
"I think they are a little premature," said Dr. Andrew Lee, a
radiation oncologist at University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center.
Lee said moving from saying there is not enough information to saying
a test is recommended is too drastic given that the evidence is so
inconclusive.
"I know some of the studies did look bad," Lee said. "In my personal
review of the literature, there are arguments both ways. If that is
the case, as a physician I would err on the side of being more
conservative.
"I don't think the data is at all conclusive to make such a strong
recommendation as a 'D' rating," he said.
Dr. Herbert Lepor, a urology professor at New York University School
of Medicine, said the claim that screening studies fail to show a
benefit is inaccurate, pointing to a Scandinavian study with 14 years
years of follow up that showed screening cut prostate cancer deaths by
50 percent.
"The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force is a group of primary care
physicians like pediatricians and OB/GYNs who never treat prostate
cancer. They have simply misinterpreted the studies and have not seen
men die of this fatal disease," Lepor said.
The proposed guidelines are meant to discourage PSA testing in healthy
men; they do not apply to men suspected of having prostate cancer.
They had been scheduled to be released in the Annals of Internal
Medicine on Monday, but leaks of the recommendations to news outlets
forced the group to post the guidelines early. It was first reported
by CNN on Thursday.
The recommendations will be available for a 30-day comment period
before final treatment guidelines are released.
According to the American Cancer Society, about 1 man in 6 will be
diagnosed with prostate cancer in his lifetime. More than 2 million
U.S. men who have been diagnosed with prostate cancer at some point
are still alive today.

15.

Fwd: Taking dietary supplements? It may be too much

Posted by: "Billy N." billy@hukum-kesehatan.web.id   yahrapha

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:41 pm (PDT)



http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-supplements-idUSTRE7966GY20111007
Taking dietary supplements? It may be too much

People who take dietary supplements to boost their intake of minerals
may actually be getting too much of a good thing -- and even risk
serious problems.
According to a study published in The American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition, people who take dietary supplements also tend to get more
nutrients from their food than those who don't take supplements --
suggesting that vitamins may be taken by the people who need them
least.
In some cases, supplement users may actually be overloading on
minerals, such as iron, that can cause potentially serious health
problems, researchers said.
"People need to choose supplements to help meet, but not exceed, the
recommended daily intake levels," said Regan Bailey, a nutrition
research at the National Institutes of Health, who led the study.
Bailey and her colleagues used dietary surveys to assess mineral
intake among 8,860 men and women who participated in a major
government health survey between 2003 and 2006.
Men and women who reported using dietary supplements containing eight
important minerals -- calcium, iron, magnesium, zinc, phosphorus,
copper, potassium and selenium -- were much less likely to be getting
inadequate amounts of those minerals from the foods they ate than were
people who said they didn't take supplements, the study found.
The link was strongest for women, who are more likely than men to take
supplements.
Supplement users, in turn, tended to eat better and live healthier
lifestyles than non-users, Bailey noted.
The NIH team also found that calcium intake often fell below
recommended levels, even among professed supplement users.
Roughly a quarter of supplement users, and 71 percent of nonusers, did
not receive the recommended daily amount of calcium -- 800 to 1,000
milligrams a day for men over age 51 and 1,000 to 1,200 mg per day for
women of the same age. Calcium is necessary for the healthy formation
of bone.
Older people were much more likely to fall short of their daily
calcium requirements -- but also to exceed them.
That's because people tend to use more supplements as they age, which
helps explain why nearly 16 percent of women between the ages of 51
and 70 reported daily calcium intakes that exceeded the recommended
upper limit. Too much supplemental calcium has been linked to kidney
stones.
Supplement users were also more likely to boost their intake of
magnesium and zinc above recommended upper limits, although the health
consequences, if any, of consuming too much of those minerals are
unknown.
"We always would hope that the people who are taking dietary
supplements are the ones who need it the most, but it doesn't seem to
be true," said Cheryl Rock, a nutrition researcher at the University
of California, San Diego, adding that the results were not surprising.
When it comes to over consumption, Rock added: "We have been telling
people clinically for years that the daily value cut point is not your
minimum requirement. Having a dietary assessment is definitely a good
idea."

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Re: File - [Harap Disimpan] Cara Setting Email & Bouncing

Posted by: "Anita Dian Puspita" a_nitadian@yahoo.com   a_nitadian

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:01 pm (PDT)



Sehat-nomail@yahoogroups.com

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On Oct 1, 2011, at 18:09, sehat@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>
> Setting Email dan Bounching Email
> (HARAP SIMPAN BAIK-BAIK EMAIL INI)
>
> Mohon mengecek email account masing-masing dan mereaktivasi email yg terkena bouching dengan cara MEREPLY email pemberitahuan Notify dari yahoogroups. Atau silakan baca dan terapkan sendiri cara me-reset email yg terkena bounching dibawah ini.
>
> Apabila mengalami masalah dengan baanyaknya jumlah email yang masuk, set setting email anda di yahoogroups menjadi nomail untuk tidak menerima email dan digest untuk menerima paket/bundle email, kalau sudah bisa me retrieve lagi, ganti lagi menjadi individual mail.
>
> Caranya cukup mengirimkan email kosong ke alamat :
>
> - Switch from receiving Individual emails to Digest : mailto:sehat-digest@yahoogroups.com
> - Switch from Individual emails to No Email (Web only ) : mailto:sehat-nomail@yahoogroups.com
> - Switch from Digest or No Email to Individual Email : mailto:sehat-normal@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> CARA ME-RESET SENDIRI EMAIL YANG TERKENA BOUNCING
>
> Dear smart parents,
>
> Jika Anda merasa suatu waktu tidak pernah lagi menerima message dari milis sehat (sehat@yahoogroups.com) yang pada hari kerja normal(senin-Jumat) berkisar 100-an email, ada kemungkinan email account Anda berstatus 'bouncing' (mental) di YahooGroups. Pada kondisi seperti ini, setiap email yang dikirimkan kepada alamat anda akan balik kembali ke alamat email pengirim (bouncing), termasuk semua posting yang dikirim dari Milis SEHAT. Server YahooGroups secara otomatis akan memasukkan email account anda ke dalam Bounching Member, yang berarti bahwa anda hanya akan dikirimkan email kembali dari milis apabila anda sudah menyelesaikan semua permasalahan yang ada pada email account anda.
>
> Hal ini bisa disebabkan oleh :
>
> - Email account Anda yang tidak valid lagi.
> - Email account Anda penuh, kuota mailbox terlewati. Harap hapus email2 lama di folder Inbox.
> - Ada masalah di mail server tempat email account Anda tsb di-host (misal ISP, mail server kantor, penyedia jasa email).
> - Ada masalah di koneksi Internet sehingga YahooGroups tidak dapat mengirimkan message ke mail server Anda .
> - Ada kemungkinan juga penyedia jasa email account anggota (ISP, mail server kantor, etc) mem-blok message dari milis disebabkan karena komputer Anda terjangkit virus/worm atau memang tidak boleh ikutan mailing list (yahoogroups)
> - Ada kemungkinan juga SPAM GUARD yg anda setting sendiri malah tidak sengaja mem-blok message dari yahoogroups.
>
> Untuk me-reset status 'bouncing' tersebut silahkan langsung login ke HYPERLINK
> http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs
>
> menggunakan Yahoo ID yang Anda punyai. Selanjutnya akan dijumpai tampilan semacam ini:
>
> Email addresses Status Bounce history ...
> anggota@domain.com Normal Bounce history ...
> anggota@namadomain.com Soft Bouncing (Unbounce) Bounce history ...
>
> Nampak diatas ada email yg berstatus 'bouncing'. Anda bisa me-reset-nya dengan mengklik tombol Unbounce. Anda juga bisa
> melihat detail status bouncing di link Bounce history.
>
> Jika semua email yg tercantum berstatus Normal, Anda tidak perlu me-reset, dan seharusnya Anda sudah dapat menerima kembali message dari milis sehat.
>
> Disarankan member untuk dapat mempunyai account di yahoo, sehingga dapat me-manage keanggotaan dimilis sehat dengan selalu mengunjungi :
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sehat/
>
> Apabila belum punya ID yahoo silahkan Sign-Up terlebih dahulu, dan daftarkan ke milis sehat.
>
> Apabila anda tidak mempunyai akses internet, mintalah bantuan pada Administrator Milis SEHAT, dengan cara mengirim email ke sehat-owner@yahoogroups.com untuk me-reset alamat email anda. Pastikan terlebih dahulu bahwa email account anda dalam keadaan baik dan kosong, sebelum anda mengirimkan email bantuan ke Administrator Milis SEHAT. Mudah-mudahan dalam waktu secepatnya Administrator Milis SEHAT akan merespon permintaan Anda tersebut.
>
> Untuk menghindari terjadinya bouncing pada alamat email anda, maka dianjurkan untuk menggunakan email account dengan kapasitas 1GB ke atas. Banyak alamat email gratisan di internet yang memberikan kapasitas mailbox lebih dari 1GB. Kirimkanlah email ke Administrator Milis SEHAT sesuai dengan Prosedur Penggantian Account Email (Dikirim berkala dengan file ini setiap bulan) untuk mengubah alamat email yang terdaftar di milis dengan alamat email tersebut.
>
> Hal lain adalah, anda dapat merubah sendiri type delivery email yg anda inginkan jika mengalami masalah dengan mailbox anda sejak mengikuti milis sehat. Kirim email kosong ke :
>
> sehat-digest@yahoogroups.com --> jika ingin hanya satu bundel (rangkuman) email per hari
>
> sehat-nomail@yahoogroups.com --> jika ingin berstatus no-mail (tidak menerima email sama sekali utk jangka waktu tertentu) Atau jika anda ingin mengakses email akses melalui yahoogroups saja (web-only)
>
> sehat-normal@yahoogroups.com --> jika ingin ke status NORMAL kembali (individual email).
>
> Jika sudah mengeset digest dan nomail masih saja anda mengalami problem tsb, mungkin ada masalah dgn server yahoogroups.
>
> Tunggu sampai 2x24 jam server yahoo akan mersepon, bilamana masih bermasalah segera hubungi Kami di sehat-owner@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Terima kasih
>
> Salam Sehat,
>
> Moderator Milis Sehat
> dr. Purnamawati S Pujiarto SpA (K), MMPed.
> Romzy Alkatiri
> Gendi Jatikusumah
> Vida Surataruna
> Luluk Lely Soraya Ichwan
> Samsul Abidin
> M. Hafiizh
> Bapake Ghozan
> Alifah Davida
>

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